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Avfm is Officially a Hate Site

Ordinate1

February 22, 2018

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Title	Avfm is Officially a Hate Site
Author	Ordinate1
Upvotes	16
Comments	54
Date	February 22, 2018 5:03 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/7zgex8/avfm_is_officially_a_hate_site/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/avfm-is-officially-a-hate-site.905527 https://theredarchive.com/post/905527

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I'm confused as to what this proves? Is there something deeper in than the first few messages that we're supposed to be seeing?

All I'm seeing is an angry senior member of the forums saying to not disregard mass murderers as idiots, which is smart. Especially since he specifically said he isn't condoning genocide.

If that's the worst you have, a forum member who denounces genocide, then I fail to see how that makes the site a hate group.

Are you one of those people who think it's a hate crime to say Islamic values are not congruent with western values? Because that's another thing groups like the splc would call hate, when it's just objective fact. Islamic values are misogynistic, and emphasize the dehumanization of non-believers. If you think that's a good value system to be letting in to our countries en masse, you are asking for non-muslims, especially women, to be treated horribly.

Similarly, the splc would consider the Google memo to be hate, when it's just a collection of scientific facts and statistics. It's not hate to say women have agency, make their own choices, and choose family over high paying careers, most of the time. But splc would say that's misogynistic.

You really don't understand your bedfellows at all.

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Oh, you want the whole story? OK.

I was the OP of the "Political Ideology" thread, which was over 200 pages and had been going on for months when one of the moderators, Grumpy Old Man (GOM), decided that he was going to take part.

As has been noted, avfm can be a rowdy place, and I'm fine with that, but I cautioned GOM before I replied to the substance of his comment that he needed to decide whether to participate as a member of the discussion or as a moderator, because I didn't want him getting upset and making up a reason to shut down the thread.

This is exactly what happened, of course; I described one of his comments as "poorly thought out," so he closed the thread and banned me for a week for an "Ad Hominem" attack.

I came back, posted a new thread which started off with the second sentence: "If I were to say, 'GOM is an idiot and therefore we don't have to listen to anything that he says,' then that would be an Ad Hominem attack," and then went on to refute the other things that he had put in his last comment before closing the previous thread.

Permaban.

I emailed Paul Elam; I can forward his response to you, if you like, but it was, roughly, "I don't believe that my moderators would ever do such a thing, so I don't even feel the need to look into the matter." I have had a couple of run-ins with him around here, his response to which is to lie and then run away.

That's AVFM.

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