Can we please do something different here. RE: Robin Williams

JRBelmont · 2014-08-12T04:48:05+00:00

To be honest I think the best thing we can do with regard to Robin Williams' death is to simply respect the humanity of this tragedy. Deal solely with the human tragedy of suicide and how little mental healthcare we have, and how stigmatized seeking it is. Bringing the MRM or Feminism into this will only polarize people against us in a knee-jerk reaction.

When (or even IF) people try to bring feminism into this don't even bother responding, simply post the video of Big Red singing "Cry Me a River" to mock us and say "Feminists pulled fire alarms to stop people from trying to help fight against suicide".

Jayken · 2014-08-12T02:39:29+00:00

It's going to be politicized. While we should wait to see what actually happened and to give the family time to grieve, we should still highlight that this isn't an uncommon fate for divorced and depressed men.

notnotnotfred · 2014-08-12T02:00:28+00:00

It is political.

It's tragic that it requires the suicide of one of the most widely known comedic actors in the world to draw attention to suicide.

We don't know all of the factors involved, but divorce was one of the possible factors, in a degree not known to us.

Piroko · 2014-08-12T03:19:11+00:00

I heard a joke once: Man goes to doctor. Says he's depressed. Life is harsh and cruel. Says he feels all alone in a threatening world. Doctor says, "Treatment is simple. The great clown Pagliacci is in town. Go see him. That should pick you up." Man bursts into tears. "But doctor..." he says, " I am Pagliacci." Good joke. Everybody laugh. Roll on snare drum. Curtains.

Simple fact is the world doesn't care.

They're not gonna change. They're not going to do do anything until the consequences of their bad decisions and policies are causing THEM problems.

snoopyzanus · 2014-08-12T13:13:57+00:00

All I want to say is that I am really saddened by the news of his death. Rest in peace.

MRSPArchiver · 2014-08-12T01:38:09+00:00

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elverloho · 2014-08-12T04:22:13+00:00

Mental health does not exist in a vacuum. Most of the time it is a result of how the society sees and treats you. How those closest to you treat you. Yes, it's possible for something to go wrong in the brain and cause mental health issues all by itself, but usually that is just a single contributing factor among many.

Treating people with mental health issues as if all they need is a hug is superficial and patronizing. We need to look deeper to have any chance of actually easing the suffering people go through.

It's sort of like terrorism. Are there insane people, who just want to blow shit up? Sure. They're rare, but they exist. Most, however, have legitimate grievances and are in a culture, which amplifies this and does not give them a different path, a way out. You have no hope of stopping terrorism if you just start killing or jailing everyone, who voices dissent. You analyze the contributing factors, see where you can do some good, and you do it. Could be as simple as bringing electricity, water, and education to a village.

bluewit · 2014-08-12T02:53:16+00:00

I just looked through your recent post history (not much of it but enough to get a knee-jerk feel for your thought-out/big-picture sense of scope,) & would suggest others do the same before treating your request/suggestion as meritous.

I don't mean you offense, but I get the impression it may benefit you to consider taking the approach that for many the best way they can contribute their leadership skills is by recognizing situations in which the most productive and helpful thing might simply be to avoid getting in the way.

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Title	Can we please do something different here. RE: Robin Williams
Author	LaughingAtIdiots
Upvotes	4
Comments	33
Date	August 12, 2014 1:38 AM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/mensrights/comments/2dalor/can-we-please-do-something-different-here-re-robin/
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