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Does this video depict a guy getting raped?

bodacious2182

August 3, 2017

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Title	Does this video depict a guy getting raped?
Author	bodacious2182
Upvotes	5
Comments	58
Date	August 3, 2017 1:00 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/6rc41t/does_this_video_depict_a_guy_getting_raped/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/does-this-video-depict-a-guy-getting-raped.916619 https://theredarchive.com/post/916619

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[–]mwobuddy 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, u/bufedad should be showing you cases where women try to do that in courts when they're coerced.

http://reason.com/blog/2017/07/31/seattle-cops-sexual-consent-must-involve

"What you have is someone paying this person essentially to turn a 'no' into a 'yes,'" Richey told the paper. "Because as several of the buyers...observed, these women, as a leisure activity, are not looking to have sex with 10 guys in a day. They're doing it for the money."

Women who are getting paid to fuck have no a priori legal right to the exchange unit of currency that some John has in his pocket, yet it is still viewed as coercion by some people.

they're doing what humans naturally do; twist every direction possible to find new ways of rationalizing why something should or shouldn't be legal.

Title IX is a prime example of how the state has broadened the definition of coercion.

The people who inform us about rape and coercion stats also use this difference between 'legal and regular terminology'.

When a girl says "I didn't feel like it, but I let him have sex with me because he wanted to" that's a tally in the coercion side when reports come out about 'rates of coercion among X group'.

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[–]bodacious2182 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Replying here just so you'll see it. It sounds like your analysis is spot on but I have one more question.

A point you made was that there was no threat of physical harm hence no coercion. That's fine I agree with that. But just to clarify, could the threat of physical harm be implied by her straddling him? Could that threat be exacerbated by the disparity of force due to the size difference?

It could be argued, legitimately or not, that restraining somebody in such a way as they are unable to flee is physical harm, or very close to it. Or, thanks to being physically restrained, some sort of physical harm was imminent. If, while she was still on top of him, he didn't relent, she could have just as easily refused to unstradle him. I realize that isn't what happened, but if the genders were reversed I can see it being argued this way.

Thanks for your time.

[–]mwobuddy 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

He was given a choice to not have sex. The pros of having sex was that his bros would also be able to have sex.

Which didn't happen, therefore it was sex gained under false pretenses. This is what happens when we go down the rabbit hole of feminism looking any way in which a person may appear to be coerced.

He quite literally did it because he thought he was going to gain from it in some manner. This turned out to be a lie, whether direct or just of omission you can think for yourself.

No one thinks well of the guy who pretends he's into girls to fuck them, and then walks off after they thought they were going to get a relationship with said guy, only to find they'd just been used for sex. The logic is similar. In fact, this kind of logic is why we used to have laws against unmarried sex, and ALSO turns out to be one of the arguments feminists used for raising age of consent to 16-18 (although they neglected to make it gender neutral).

So with age of consent law, you can see that feminists/women wanted males punished for lying about being in love to get sex. Despite someone not being legally entitled to love, the lie of it still was considered worth legislating against.

There also happens to be a hard push for 'enthusiastic consent' laws, which would make this kind of activity a clear violation of law; wherein you threaten to do something someone else doesn't want unless they have sex with you, even if it isn't physically violent or damages/removes something they had a legal right to.

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