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Equal pay: My Observation (read: no citations or surveys)

TerriChris · 2012-09-13T12:40:33+00:00

Yesterday my wife and I received job offers for work from the same employer in a town we moved to recently. My wife negociated her wage and I did not. I will...

TerriChris

September 13, 2012

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Title	Equal pay: My Observation (read: no citations or surveys)
Author	TerriChris
Upvotes	22
Comments	9
Date	September 13, 2012 12:40 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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[–]burritosandbeer 11 points12 points13 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]shady8x 9 points10 points11 points 13 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I got you covered and then some...

The “pay gap” is probably the most widely-cited example of supposed disadvantages faced by women today. It is also totally misleading, as it is only a snapshot of average yearly full-time incomes that does not account for overtime (about 90% male), type of work, or other non-discriminatory, voluntary factors.

The Department of Labor recently funded a study that proved this and found the pay gap is caused by choices, not discrimination.

http://www.consad.com/content/reports/Gender%20Wage%20Gap%20Final%20Report.pdf

Women work (44/56)x100=78% as much time as men. Kind of explains the gap by itself doesn't it?

The Gender Pay Gap is a Complete Myth

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505125_162-28246928/the-gender-pay-gap-is-a-complete-myth/

Gender pay gap is not what activists claim

http://wwww.examiner.com/x-22884-Canada-Politics-Examiner~y2010m2d22-Gender-pay-gap-is-not-what-activists-claim

Equal pay statistics are bogus because they don’t compare like with like

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/vickiwoods/7957186/Sorry-ladies-Im-not-worried-about-wage-gaps.html

Fair Pay Isn’t Always Equal Pay

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/22/opinion/22Sommers.html?_r=1&hp

The Wage Gap Myth

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/09/the_wage_gap_myth.html

Don’t Blame Discrimination for Gender Wage Gap

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-13/don-t-blame-discrimination-for-gender-wage-gap.html

The pay inequality myth: Women are more equal than you think

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa3pKN3XUKM&feature=youtu.be

Women Now a Majority in American Workplaces

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/06/business/economy/06women.html?_r=2

Labor force participation rate for men has never been lower.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/biggest-shock-fridays-payroll-report-sorry-men

Share of Men in Labor Force at All-Time Low

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/07/share-of-men-in-labor-force-at-all-time-low/?src=recg

Men earn 52% LESS than women for part time jobs

How to get this graph yourself from the Bureau of Labor Statistics

Women In Tech Make More Money And Land Better Jobs Than Men

http://www.businessinsider.com/women-in-tech-make-more-money-and-land-better-jobs-than-men-2010-9

Female U.S. corporate directors out-earn men: study

www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN0752118220071107?feedType=R

Female CEOs outearned men in 2009.

http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=10630664

Women between ages 21 and 30 working full-time made 117% of men's wages.

www.nytimes.com/2007/08/03/nyregion/03women.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, single women between 22 and 30 years old earn an average of $27,000 a year. That's 8% more than comparable men.

http://www.ksee24.com/news/local/Young-Women-Earn-More-159818705.html

Workplace Salaries: At Last, Women on Top

http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,2015274,00.html

Young Women's Pay Exceeds Male Peers

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704421104575463790770831192.html

The 15 Jobs Where Women Earn More Than Men

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jennagoudreau/2011/03/14/jobs-where-women-earn-more-than-men/

women aged between 22 and 29 earn over £10 per hour on average, compared to men their same age who earn just under this amount.

http://www.womenintechnology.co.uk/news/young-women-earn-more-than-men--news-800761492

Young women now earn more than men in UK

http://www.womensviewsonnews.org/2011/10/young-women-now-earn-more-than-men-in-uk/

The only chairwoman in the FTSE 100 index of biggest British companies, when asked about government efforts to force companies to make at least 25% of board member to be female said: "there's no real evidence to suggest women being on a board makes the companies any better – what we're doing here is forcing an experiment."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/the-formula-for-better-boards-younger-female-different-8119815.html

This was further supported in the book “Why Men Earn More" by Warren Farrell, Ph.D., examined 25 career/life choices men and women make (hours, commute times, etc.) that lead to men earning more and women having more balanced lives, and that showed how men in surveys prioritize money while women prioritize flexibility, shorter hours, shorter commutes, less physical risk and other factors conducive to their choice to be primary parents, an option men still largely don’t have. That is why never-married childless women outearn their male counterparts, and female corporate directors now outearn their male counterparts.

http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN0752118220071107?feedTy…

Farrell also lists dozens of careers, including fields of science, where women outearn men. Women simply have more options than men to be primary parents, and many of them exercise that option rather than work long, stressful hours. That is why 57% of female graduates of Stanford and Harvard left the workforce within 15 years of entry into the workforce.

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/BUSINESS/03/15/optout.revolution/

This is an option few men have (try being a single male and telling women on the first date that you want to stay home).

Blaming men for women’s choices is unfair. In fact research shows most men have no problem with their wives outearning them.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23413243

Research also shows most working dads would quit or take a pay cut to spend more time with kids if their spouses could support the family.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/Careers/06/13/dads.work/index.html

Research also shows that parents share workloads more when mothers allow men to be primary parents.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-05-04-equal-parenting_N.htm

ABC News: “Is the Wage Gap Women’s Choice? Research Suggests Career Decisions, Not Sex Bias, Are at Root of Pay Disparity”

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/GiveMeABreak/story?id=797045&page=1&CMP=OTC-R

There is also the myth that women are kept out of certain more lucrative fields by sexism. The truth is that women stay away from math out of their own free choice

http://sify.com/news/women-stay-away-from-math-out-of-their-own-free-choice-news-scitech-kk1lubiiiee.html

Women In Science: No Discrimination, Says Cornell Study

http://www.science20.com/news_articles/women_science_no_discrimination_says_cornell_study-75984

Let’s be real about the lack of women in tech

http://www.businessinsider.com/lets-be-real-about-the-lack-of-women-in-tech-2010-10

[–]QuickBASIC 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link