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Feminists keep talking about 'taking down patriarchy' and how everything wrong in the world is due to 'patriarchy'. Well, bro, how the fuck do we know that matriarchy would be better? How the fuck do we know any alternative is better?

jjohaann

December 29, 2020

18 upvotes

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Title	Feminists keep talking about 'taking down patriarchy' and how everything wrong in the world is due to 'patriarchy'. Well, bro, how the fuck do we know that matriarchy would be better? How the fuck do we know any alternative is better?
Author	jjohaann
Upvotes	18
Comments	18
Date	December 29, 2020 1:21 AM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/km3tbv/feminists_keep_talking_about_taking_down/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/feminists-keep-talking-about-taking-down.837236 https://theredarchive.com/post/837236

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[–]ShortTailBoa 12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

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[+]Astavri0 points 5 years ago* [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

Please stop generalizing ALL feminism. In other countries women are fighting for equal rights as men (driving, having a passport, being allowed to go to school) and they are they are the real feminists.

Yes, 90% of the US feminists are fighting to gain control and power or destroy men, but we need to stand in solidarity with real feminism.

Fakefeminist needs to be a thing and they need to be called on it, we should reserve feminism for those who want real progress, as in equal rights" for women.

[–]EmirikolWoker 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]AlexKingstonsGigolo 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That is a very interesting perspective. Personally, I come to the same conclusion, “Egalitarian values, and mens rights advocacy in particular, is innately antifeminist”, thru Liebig’s law of the minimum as it relates to reproduction and control of society:

Everyone has an equal inherent and inalienable right to an equal potential control of society as long as such control is otherwise just and exercised justly.
Whoever controls reproduction controls society.
According to Liebig's law of the minimum, any process is controlled not by the total amount of resources available but by the scarcest resource (limiting factor).
In human reproduction, the viable sperm of the men tends to exceed the viable eggs of the girls because a typical man need only produce ~400 sperm cells, a process typically taking ~1/4 of a second, to exceed the number of potentially viable egg cells a girl ever produces, making the viable egg cells the scarcer resource.
Therefore, in human reproduction, viable egg cells are the more controlling factor.
Therefore, girls have inherent and inalienable and innate greater control of reproduction compared to men.
Therefore, girls have inherent and inalienable and innate greater control of society compared to men.
Therefore, to ensure an equal potential control of society, men must be given greater control of society in other ways as compensation as long as such control is otherwise just and exercised justly.
Feminism tends to seek to take away this compensatory control.
Therefore, One should oppose feminism to the extent this compensatory control is otherwise just and exercised justly.

Now, if feminism were presented as seeking equity instead of equality, the arguments might be different, especially since, after a while, equity looks a lot like equality; however, as long as feminism is presented as seeking equality while ignoring the intrinsic need for equity, it’s very difficult to take it and/or it’s advocates seriously.

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[+]t_omar791 points 5 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

We are already well in a matriarchy. Anyone who can’t see that is a part of the problem not the solution.

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