Gender

ErasmusMRA · 2012-10-07T14:09:56+00:00

Remember, never use 'gender' when you mean 'sex'. Once you start using the word 'gender' you've accepted it as a social construct and feminism wins that battle without a fight.

Phuzzums · 2012-10-07T18:34:51+00:00

He is assuming that the sex one is born always results in the gender, or social behavior, associated with that sex. That's just completely false. He is taking what he calls "the left's theory that gender is 100% a social construct" and flipping to the exact opposite extreme and saying that the way one behaves is 100% based on biological sex. Both are bullshit.

He brings up the David Reimer case and talks about the horrors of the situation that this man was put through, and I agree, what they did to him was inexcusable and based completely on bullshit reasoning that "gender is 100% a social construct". But then what about the children that do identify as the gender opposite to their sex? What about the boys that grow up associating with girls more, playing with dolls, avoiding rough physical interaction and play and instead trending to personal and verbal interaction? How many of them have been sent to therapists and rehabilitation, been told that they must act a certain way because that is their sex, and then as a result of being treated like they are broken for years and being unable to adapt they finally end up killing themselves? Is that not also very telling that gender is a very real and distinct thing from biological sex? Is that not just as disgusting as the David Reimer case? People taking their own lives because people telling them for years that how they feel, how they act, what they enjoy, is wrong and that they need to be "fixed" to be a functional part of society.

As for the guy in the video, he sounds like an extreme chauvinist ("Men are labor machines and women are baby machines. That's how it fucking is. That's why 99.9% of the innovation in every society has been that of men.") that is completely inflexible with his views and anyone who disagrees with him is wrong and an idiot that doesn't deserve to be part of the discussion. In fact, he sounds exactly like a militant gender feminist but on the opposite side of the spectrum. He is perfectly in his right to have his opinions, just as militant gender feminists have a right to theirs, but don't be surprised if his extreme views get picked up by others and used as a blanket accusation that all MRAs, like him, are extremists that believe that the idea of men being labor machines and women being baby machines should continue indefinitely and that anyone who doesn't identify as their biological sex is broken and doesn't deserve to be happy until they fit themselves into the predefined mold based on what chromosomes they were born with.

PointAndClick · 2012-10-07T18:04:35+00:00

"This is what the left loves to do, they want to re-engineer our language so that they can re-engineer our society. Because that's the closest thing you can get to undoing human nature."

allllllright, well that escalated quickly. And it didn't get much better after that. Stopped watching...

Title	Gender
Author	bipikachulover
Upvotes	7
Comments	12
Date	October 7, 2012 1:31 PM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/113496/gender/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/gender.1011885 https://theredarchive.com/post/1011885

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