Hey guys I need help

Samantha_Cruz · 2020-02-16T17:22:21+00:00

I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them. Robin Morgan, Ms. Magazine Editor

The nuclear family must be destroyed… Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process. Linda Gordon

I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig. Andrea Dworkin

Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women’s movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage. Sheila Cronin, the leader of the feminist organization NOW

Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice. Andrea Dworkin

The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist. Ti-Grace Atkinson

Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear. Susan Brownmiller, Against Our Will p.6

When a woman reaches ****** with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression. Sheila Jeffrys

Politically, I call it rape whenever a woman has sex and feels violated. Catherine MacKinnon

The more famous and powerful I get the more power I have to hurt men. Sharon Stone

Ninety-five percent of women’s experiences are about being a victim. Or about being an underdog, or having to survive… women didn’t go to Vietnam and blow things up. They are not Rambo. Jodie Foster, quoted in The New York Times Magazine

The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race. Sally Miller Gearhart, in The Future – If There Is One – Is Female

And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual (male), it may be mainly a quantitative difference. Susan Griffin, Rape: The All-American Crime

If life is to survive on this planet, there must be a decontamination of the Earth. I think this will be accompanied by an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction of the population of males. Mary Daly

Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience. Catherine Comins

As long as some men use physical force to subjugate females, all men need not. The knowledge that some men do suffices to threaten all women. He can beat or kill the woman he claims to love; he can rape women…he can sexually molest his daughters… THE VAST MAJORITY OF MEN IN THE WORLD DO ONE OR MORE OF THE ABOVE. Marilyn French

I believe that women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which man structurally does not have, does not have it because he cannot have it. He’s just incapable of it. Barbara Jordan, former Congresswoman

Man-hating is everywhere, but everywhere it is twisted and transformed, disguised, tranquilized, and qualified. It coexists, never peacefully, with the love, desire, respect, and need women also feel for men. Always man-hating is shadowed by its milder, more diplomatic and doubtful twin, ambivalence. Judith Levine Women have their faults / men have only two: / everything they say / everything they do. Popular Feminist Graffiti

We are taught, encouraged, moulded by and lulled into accepting a range of false notions about the family. As a source of some of our most profound experiences, it continues to be such an integral part of our emotional lives that it appears beyond criticism. Yet hiding from the truth of family life leaves women and children vulnerable. Canadian Panel on Violence Against Women

I do want to be able to explain to a 9-year-old boy in terms he will understand why I think it’s OK for girls to wear shirts that revel in their superiority over boys. Treena Shapiro

Personally I think "Feminism" needs to die in the same way the "Manosphere" needs to die and for largely the same reasons... - Both should cease to exist in favor of a movement for true equality without pitting one group against the other. Feminist leaders and the palpable silence of any opposition to their misandrist statements have made the feminist movement into a hate group; not a movement for equality. The entire mindset that pits one against the other is divisive and destructive. "Men's Rights" (in my opinion) is entirely a response to the constant hateful and harmful effects caused by feminism. I applaud efforts to make life better for people regardless of gender, religion, "race" or whatever other ridiculous reasons people use to make excuses for dividing us into different groups; but we also need to be considerate of the negative, possibly unintended consequences of those changes. - "Feminism" has addressed some legitimate issues and there are some legitimate issues remaining to be addressed (Particularly in the middle east; India and third world countries) but "Feminism" has absolutely lost any legitimate credibility it ever might have had as a movement for "equality". End the charade and stop dividing everyone over superficial and largely meaningless divisions.

Oncefa2 · 2020-02-16T22:54:08+00:00

The core of feminism is patriarchy theory and I think there are a few key points that counter it.

A majority of the electorate in most Western Nations is made up of women. 54% in the United States, to be exact. Women's groups represent a huge lobbying complex and exert a tremendous amount of political power. Politicians tend to cater to women in order to get elected.

Center for American Women and Politics (2019, September 16). Gender differences in voter turnout. Available at: http://cawp.rutgers.edu/sites/default/files/resources/genderdiff.pdf

Women own a majority of the wealth in most Western Nations. In the United States, it's 60%.

COMTEXT (2016, April 2). BMO Report: Despite Controlling $14 Trillion in Wealth, American Women Still Have Challenges to Overcome. MarketWatch. Retrieved October 21, 2019, from https://www.marketwatch.com/press-release/bmo-report-despite-controlling-14-trillion-in-wealth-american-women-still-have-challenges-to-overcome-2015-04-02-13173119

Gunelius, S. (2010). Women Making Economic Strides and Not Slowing Down. Forbes / ForbesWomen. Available at: https://www.forbes.com/sites/work-in-progress/2010/07/28/women-making-economic-strides-and-not-slowing-down/

Women exert even more economic power than what they own directly. As much as 80% of all consumer economic activity is driven by women. As a result, most businesses cater to women and not men.

Fabry, S. (2011). Women Dominate The Global Market Place; Here Are 5 Keys To Reaching Them. Available from: https://www.fastcompany.com/1663594/women-dominate-the-global-market-place-here-are-5-keys-to-reaching-them

Inclusionary Leadership Group (2017). "Women Influence 83% Of All Consumer Spending In U.S." Available from: http://www.genderleadershipgroup.com/the-inclusionary-leadership-blog/210

Elliott, Hannah (2018, February 13) Luxury Automakers Are Finally Discovering the Power of Women Buyers. Bloomberg Businessweek, February 19, 2018 Issue. Available from: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-13/luxury-automakers-are-finally-discovering-the-power-of-women-buyers

Women control most relationships and most marriages. The family unit is a fundamental part of society, and women are in charge of their families 80% of the time.

Morin, R., & Cohn, D. (2008). Women call the shots at home; public mixed on gender roles in jobs. Pew Research Center.[Online] Available from: https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2008/09/25/women-call-the-shots-at-home-public-mixed-on-gender-roles-in-jobs/ Accessed March, 10, 2010.

The Scotsman (2011, March 1). Women decide to rule the roost. Retrieved October 21, 2019, from https://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle-2-15039/women-decide-to-rule-the-roost-1-1503380

When a husband and a wife disagree about something, the wife usually gets her way, often using tactics of manipulation, gaslighting, the threat of divorce, and physical abuse

Vogel, D. L., Murphy, M. J., Werner-Wilson, R. J., Cutrona, C. E., & Seeman, J. (2007). Sex differences in the use of demand and withdraw behavior in marriage: Examining the social structure hypothesis. Journal of Counseling Psychology, 54(2), 165. Available from: https://public.psych.iastate.edu/ccutrona/psych592a/articles/Vogel%202007.pdf

Merz, Theo. (2014, June 26). Women are ‘more controlling and aggressive than men’ in relationships. The Telegraph. Available from: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/relationships/10927507/Women-are-more-controlling-and-aggressive-than-men-in-relationships.html?fbclid=IwAR1zlTkxvaKYPzFCVIntaRBFvY3adKOX25fUtlZY-RXnO47fLg91w95hlzE

Lyndon, Neil. (2015, February 10). At home, women treat men as if they are barely competent. The Telegraph. Available from: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/relationships/11401315/At-home-women-treat-men-as-if-they-are-barely-competent.html

Men spend more total time working, doing chores, and raising kids than women, leaving women with more time to themselves outside of these activities. Men slave away their time, energy, and health in other to earn money that is primarily spent on or by their girlfriend / wife. As a result, men live on average 5 years less than women and enjoy less free time.

Pew Research Center (2019, June 12). For both moms and dads, more time spent on child care. Pew Research Center. [Online] Available from: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/06/12/fathers-day-facts/ft_18-05-01_fathersday_time/ Accessed June, 12, 2019.

VerBruggen, R. (2019, June 11). The Myth of the 'Lazy' father. Institute for Family Studies. Retrieved October 21, 2019, from https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-myth-of-the-lazy-father

Related to the above: women earn less money not because of discrimination, but because they can afford to use men to subsidize their income.

"The wage gap is created by women, and reflects female financial privilege over men". https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/dxaimc/the_wage_gap_is_created_by_women_and_reflects/

I think a very strong argument can be made that society is gynocentric, not patriarchal, and evidence of this can be found just about everywhere.

There are also several key legal rights that men lack: Bodily integrity (in the form of circumcision), parental rights, custodial rights, reproductive rights ("paper abortions"), and the right to vote without compulsory military service. As far as I know, there is not a single legal right that men have, that women don't.

Btw, check out r/mramemes there might be some "visuals" over there that you can use.

michigansuperfan2 · 2020-02-16T19:36:08+00:00

http://www.realsexism.com/ https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/2019-update-for-every-100-girls-part-iii/

Cripplenippleripple · 2020-02-16T20:03:24+00:00

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/aabh17/9_female_empowerment_quotes_with_genders_reveresed/

Firefuego12 · 2020-02-18T11:59:28+00:00

Small tip: when talking about treatmen towards men in gender violence, word it in a way that shows their should also receive attention based on the condition as people, where as if it continues to be differentiated on gender then society and the organizations based on it would only act if its fits the expectations of it (such as X group cannot commit violent acts)

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