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How Patriarchy Theory Is Actually Misogynistic

whatafoolishsquid

February 5, 2021

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Title	How Patriarchy Theory Is Actually Misogynistic
Author	whatafoolishsquid
Upvotes	14
Comments	32
Date	February 5, 2021 8:26 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/ldgeyn/how_patriarchy_theory_is_actually_misogynistic/
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[–]Oncefa2 12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

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Women are less likely to face police violence and violence because they're less likely to be in gangs and get into fights

It's because they live lives where this isn't necessary.

Men are more likely to fall through the cracks and become destitute than women. Criminality is a symptom of a problem, not the problem itself. Misandry and discrimination in society that disenfranchises men is what leads to this.

4.9 % of men who are murdered are murdered by an intimate partner and 40% of women who are murdered are murdered by an intimate partner.

The alternative interpretation of that cherry picked statistic is that men are more likely to be killed by women than the other way around.

Most of the things you listed are the fault of other men.

Ah yes classic victim blaming.

Learn to be a better ally.

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What you described is literally not part of our history.

It's also not what is meant by "patriarchy," in either the dictionary definition -- a system of patrilineally traced descent -- or the unscientific and invalid feminist description -- a system of power concentrated among men for men's benefit.

It is particularly this last factor which you omitted which is relevant.

At one point in time, strict gender roles were enforced for women and men -- for the benefit of families and society. Individual liberties for women and men were tightly constrained, and both were relegated to their respective realms. This was not for men's benefit, nor did men benefit from it. This was not to oppress women, nor were women "oppressed" any more than men were.

This was not a system in which "men had power and women were just for cooking and cleaning." It's a system in which both women and men had different gender norms to which they were held.

Your absurd characterization of men as being "taught all the tools of trade and the family's heritage was passed on to them" while "women were treated worthy of cooking or cleaning only, and existed just to be 'married of'" is not only borderline illiterate, it is utterly false.

The absurd, insulting belief you have is a mythological creation of feminism and views all men as evil and all women as complicit and stupid.

Sounds good?

Sounds like feminist brainwashing.

The history of humanity is the shared struggle of women and men working alongside each other. What you believe is a myth.

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You must be delusional if you don't know about a period like that. People still face that.

I love how your definition of patriarchy is completely wrong. Let's look at that, shall we?

'A system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it'

Oh my God!! In history, we never had anything remotely like that, did we? Of course, the kings giving their kingdoms to their sons exclusively, and fathers teaching their trades to sons exclusively does not mean patriarchy. Of course, a society which expects women to cook and clean only, while men are free to choose any trade they like is not patriarchy. Of course, a society where women are 'unworthy' and are not allowed to take decisions is not patriarchy.

'Shared struggles', you say, and I agree, both mean and women struggled, but patriarchy never refers to the struggles. Say this with me again, patriarchy is not about the struggles faced by either gender. All the examples I gave of women not having the choice were brought forth to prove one thing- they didn't have a choice!

Patrilineal , or agnatic, descent is established by tracing descent exclusively through males from a founding male ancestor.

Claiming this didn't happen is extremely absurd. Saying that 'when a girl goes to another family, she belongs to them' is exactly an example of this.

I don't see why you must trade insults, there is no reason for that. I find that the deluded are often the most hostile ones.

To sum it up, men had power while women did not. They formed governments, though mostly monarchic ones, they decided everything in the family, from what their sons and daughters would do, to who would own the land when they died. The women had no choice in that. That is what I mean by patriarchy, and that is a very real thing of our past.

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