Is patriarchy inevitable?

mikesteane · 2021-10-02T07:37:13+00:00

The author thinks that men have always ruled because men are stronger and have hormones that make them want to rule

Seems more likely that men have hormones that make them want to appeal to women. When women select dominant men, they compete to become dominant.

Bojack35 · 2021-10-02T15:56:06+00:00

Pregnancy' infant mortality' job specialisation and the physical nature of work is what created gender rules that have women in charge of domestic affairs and men in charge of external affairs. All the rest stems from there. Going to copy a previous comment I made on the development of 'patriarchy' :

Look at the transition from hunter- gatherer to farming based societies - in many senses the starting point of modern society. A few points on that:

This happened independently in several locations around the world so it's fair to say it was not the result of specific social influences. Universal traits - biology - are what produced so many independent but similar societies.
It produced largely the same social structures which could be defined as patriachy' certainly that present traditional gender roles.
The first crucial step in this process is the domestication of crops and animals. In hunter gatherer societies the plant gathering was primarily conducted by women while the men did the hunting. The domestication of crops was a long and initially unintentional process but it was the progression into farming that led into settled developments.
Settled developments and improved diet gave humans the opportunity to produce more children. More resources' less having to carry kids around etc. As population increases beyond readily available land the land is farmed more intensively.
As farming became more sophisticated it was men who took on the more intensive tilling etc. Maintaining the fields and women who processed the harvested grains and general food preparation. This was down to biology- strength and that women can nurse children at home while working. So men going out to work and women looking after the kids / home became established. Not oppression just sensible division of labour.
Over time food and cooking became less communal and more household based. Farmland became more privately owned and less communal. This is driven by other universally human traits - greed and selfishness. These lands became significant inheritance. Instead of the whole community providing the next generation with the tools to eat (hunting skills) this came from the family unit (land to farm.)
This importance resulted in greater importance of fidelity. Suddenly womens virginity and wives fidelity becomes a bigger concern than in hunter gatherer world.
Due to the consistent reality throughout history that much less men reproduce than women this land goes to sons not daughters to increase the chance of your children reproducing. Those families that follow this tradition will produce more kids following the same traditions. Marriage has become a form of wealth.
Generally speaking men marry around 30 when they inherit this land' they marry women in their late teens who have less chance of having sex outside of this arrangement than older women. Girls tend to go straight from their fathers household/ authority to their older husbands. Boys tend to stay at home and care for elderly parents/ family land until it becomes theirs. Hypergamy becomes well established as men are valued as providers while women for sexual purity. Men are responsible for providing and representing/ defending the family women are responsible for managing the home and kids. Sounds a lot like patriachy yeh?

TL/DR This is all an oversimplification but the general point is that what we could analyse as patriachy emerged in very early society as a result of biological differences and inheritance of family assets. It was not oppression of women by men just parents trying to provide their children of either gender the best opportunity to survive and reproduce. Arguably the whole process was started and driven by women more than men.

Kindly-Town · 2021-10-02T08:08:29+00:00

Patriarchy occurs naturally in society. Men have the responsibility to provide for their families. This responsibility creates necessity for men to always be in competition in their career for growth, to work overtime, to opt risky jobs for more money and to learn leadership skills to lead the hierarcy.

Failure to do so, you get punished. Noone will marry you, you don't get your desired partner, you become invisible to society.

RottingVillain666 · 2021-10-02T07:46:03+00:00

Nope. Not valid. In the ancient times the men had more lead outside because the women led the household. At least in italy, the mom is the one in charge of the house and the father usually had to take other decisions. But now it doesn’t reslly value anymore since we have all comforts and someone can go to a supermarket.

Men-Are-Human · 2021-10-02T17:06:07+00:00

Feminism is the Patriarchy. It's the number one idology telling governments what to do.

DavidByron2 · 2021-10-02T19:27:16+00:00

90% of psychopaths are men. There's your reason for patriarchy in terms of the ruling class.

Of course 90% of geniuses are men too but it's not PC to mention that end of things.

recoveringbeta22 · 2021-10-02T21:12:31+00:00

Patriarchy is inevitable because matriarchies always implode. Just look at what’s happening to society now.

Title	Is patriarchy inevitable?
Author	accidental_me
Upvotes	6
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Date	October 2, 2021 7:24 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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