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Judge rules Steven Galloway can proceed with defamation suit

Sith_Lord_Of_The_USA

December 3, 2021
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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-judge-rules-steven-galloway-can-proceed-with-defamation-suit/
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Title Judge rules Steven Galloway can proceed with defamation suit
Author

Sith_Lord_Of_The_USA

Upvotes 23
Comments 23
Date December 3, 2021 12:14 PM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/r7xu3o/judge_rules_steven_galloway_can_proceed_with/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/judge-rules-steven-galloway-can-proceed-with.1088949
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Top posts by Sith_Lord_Of_The_USA

She accused a university prof of sexual assault. Now he’s suing for defamation. Some fear the ‘landmark’ case could have a chilling effect

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I think he made the right choice

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To make things worse, the kid is below eighteen, so he’s a minor

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The cops didn’t arrest him and actually recognized him as the victim

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Yep, here we go

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I hope he gets out while he can

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Of course this was going to be here

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He has every right to do so after what she did

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Comments

[+]EnvironmentalWar4627 -19 points-18 points-17 points 4 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link

He lost his job because he slept with his student. Something he openly admitted was true.

Whether the nature of their relationship was a criminal matter is up to the courts but a school has no obligation to keep a teacher that's clearly willing to sleep with his students.

This dude ruined his own life.

[–]Kindly-Town 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

That's why the lawsuit is a defamation lawsuit against the accuser, not against the school.

[+]EnvironmentalWar4627 -13 points-12 points-11 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Well, if he can prove that their relationship was in no way abusive, he may mess up her life, but no school will ever touch him with a 10 foot pole so I think he's pretty screwed in terms of employment either way.

We will see what the court finds.

[–]Kindly-Town 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

if he can prove that their relationship was in no way abusive

You can't prove things of 7 years ago whose only witness was the accuser saying against your defense. She is the one making claims, can she prove she was abused? What's your opinion if the roles are reversed? Your in-group bias heavily bends on women's side.

but no school will ever touch him with a 10 foot pole

Because of the defamation. Not because he violated national contract.

[+]EnvironmentalWar4627 -11 points-10 points-9 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

To prove its defamatory, you have to prove its a lie. You can't sue someone for making true statements. So in order to sue for damages, you need to prove they lied.

[–]Kindly-Town 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

To prove its defamatory, you have to prove its a lie. So in order to sue for damages, you need to prove they lied.

Nope. Defamation is if she makes claims public without proof. He only has to show that she named him in things that she had no evidence for and his side of proof is already public.

You can't sue someone for making true statements.

She showed no proof of her statements that you are calling true. Your in-group bias is extremely high.

[–]EnvironmentalWar4627 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I didn't call any statements true. I'm saying you have to prove her statements were false to sue her.

Did you think every single person who is found not guilty can sue everyone that ever accused them without proving anything?

If she was telling the truth, this would allow real sexual assaulters to sue innocent victims because they didn't have evidence. That's not how the law works. Thank God. No one should be victimized twice because they had no proof of the assault.

[–]awsedjikol 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm saying you have to prove her statements were false to sue her.

This is simply not true in case of defamation.

[–]nikogetsit 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, evwryone is innocent until proven guilty. It must be proven there was a crime if she wishes to publically say he did the crime but since she can't prove it, libel laws take effect which makes her liable to a defamation lawsuit.

[–]Kindly-Town 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't call any statements true. I'm saying you have to prove her statements were false to sue her.

That's not how it works. The burden of proof is on the accuser. He only has to prove that she defamed him and defamation is when you name someone publicly without evidence. He has evidence of defamation.

Did you think every single person who is found not guilty can sue everyone that ever accused them without proving anything?

She never filed police report against him and there was no case, only online accusation which further puts her at not believable position.

Accuser who has no evidence also don't have the right to defame someone publicly.

[–]tenchineuro 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Whether the nature of their relationship was a criminal matter is up to the courts but a school has no obligation to keep a teacher that's clearly willing to sleep with his students.

Until recently schools have had little problem with female teachers who sleep with their underage students.

[–]ZimbaZumba 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago* (9 children) | Copy Link

He lost his job because he slept with his student.

In many universities, this is not an offence and in those where it is, you'd be naive to think it is not going on. Professors and students are human, and there are usually informal ways of dealing with it. They fired him because he slept with a student AND had the label rapist.

He is suing the attention-seeking s**t and her lynch mob for calling him a rapist. I hope he nails their arses to the wall.

[–]EnvironmentalWar4627 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Oh man. You've clearly decided you know what happened in their relationship. I wish judges could be so confident without evidence.

[–]ZimbaZumba 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

UBC hired retired B.C. judge Mary Ellen Boyd to investigate, and she
found in April, 2016, that on a balance of probabilities he did not
commit sexual assault or assault.

She could not even prove her case using a balance of probabilities, ie 51 to 49.

[–]EnvironmentalWar4627 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

'On the balance of probabilities' means he 'probably didn't commit assault'.

You want a woman nailed to the wall who 'probably didn't get assaulted'? What if she did? Wouldn't that be horrible?

[–]tenchineuro 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

You want a woman nailed to the wall who 'probably didn't get assaulted'? What if she did?

But apparently it's OK to nail a man to the wall on that basis.

Wouldn't that be horrible?

I'm betting you already say 'no' here.

[–]EnvironmentalWar4627 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Its not okay to punish someone without evidence. This man should be a free man as there's no evidence that he is guilty of abuse.

[–]tenchineuro 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This man should be a free man as there's no evidence that he is guilty of abuse.

False, to convict a man of rape requires no evidence but the woman's word. It's even worse at universities.

[–]EnvironmentalWar4627 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Which rapists are in jail that has no evidence against them? Can you name a single one? Which convicted rapists do you want let out of prison?

[–]tenchineuro 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Which rapists are in jail that has no evidence against them?

You mean which man, right? I have yet to see a woman charged with rape.

There's on in the news right now.

  • https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/nov/23/alice-sebold-1981-rape-conviction-overturned
  • Man cleared of 1981 rape of Alice Sebold over concerns wrong person sent to jail

And she was making big money from this with a book and a netflix movie or series in the works. Thankfully they dropped it when the man was exonerated.

You seen, she saw him walking and said he had raped her. AFAIK he had never seen or met her. A woman's unsupported work is enough.

This is how it works...

  • https://www.michigancriminalsexualconductattorney.com/blog/2016/october/can-i-be-convicted-of-csc-based-only-on-hearsay-/
  • So in this article, the question we are really answering his "Can I be convicted of CSC based only on an accusation alone with no other evidence?" Naturally, if you are accused of Criminal Sexual Conduct, it seems completely unjust, unfair, and unreasonable that someone can simply point their finger at you and say "he did it," and now you're facing a serious charge that could put you in Prison.

  • We agree 100%. But the short and simple answer is "yes," you absolutely can be convicted of a Criminal Sexual Conduct in Michigan based on an accuser's testimony alone, with zero additional evidence. That means the government does not need to come forward with any DNA evidence, other scientific evidence, a " Rape Kit ," medical testimony, video, eyewitnesses, text messages, or any other corroborating evidence - period.

That's why Anthony Broadwater spent 16 years in prison.

[–]ZimbaZumba 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think you would benefit from a course in elementary probability theory.

edit: I notice you are a troll, I am a bit slow today. Trolls rarely last very long around here.

[–]Norgelover5 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Holy shit dude. Like I said before, you reply to EVERY FUCKING POST. You clearly don't support mensrights, so you eithier spend all day sitting on the sub waiting for someone to post, or have notifications turned on, which means you subscribed.

[–]slonicsson 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He did not sleep with HIS student. He was not even a professor when they had affairs as he was a sessional temp instructor, and she was a student with no overlap with him... She accused him several years later when he became a fulltime faculty member.

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