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"Let's Objectify Men". I have seen multiple articles out there trying to justify sexually objectifying men. But this is the worst.

Grave_Heresy

July 31, 2020
64 upvotes
/r/MensRights
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Title "Let's Objectify Men". I have seen multiple articles out there trying to justify sexually objectifying men. But this is the worst.
Author

Grave_Heresy

Upvotes 64
Comments 22
Date July 31, 2020 2:34 PM UTC
(5 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/i18jki/lets_objectify_men_i_have_seen_multiple_articles/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/lets-objectify-men-i-have-seen-multiple-articles.1196234
https://theredarchive.com/post/1196234
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[–]higgs456 24 points25 points26 points 5 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

The hypocrisy is absolutely staggering. Objectifying women is seen through the ultimate hysterical lens where it's a violent assault on women (chopping them up to be enjoyed but not as whole, a typical hysterical delusion) but objectifying men, which is done through the same mechanisms with no difference from men objectifying women, is seen as upholding women's rights to their sexuality. I personally have zero issue with objectifying in either direction, as long as respect is upheld on some level, but the narcissism and psychological disorder in this piece, while typical of feminists, is just staggering when approached rationally.

Plus women do this openly already, with the highest level of cringe behavior of anyone when Zach Efron, Jason Mamoa, or Henry Cavill do pretty much anything lmao. Like, supposedly women's sexuality has been kept hidden while boy bands have stadiums full of screeching fans being possibly the biggest most embarrassing creep-fests in existence as if it's perfectly fine. Pure delusion.

[–]Grave_Heresy 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So true.

[–]red_philosopher 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So much back and forth in that article. . . Incredibly vapid.

(Quotes are paraphrased.)

"We've been objectified for *centuries," it's time we got behind the lens."

"It's not about revenge. . ."

"We get reduced to things when we are objectified, men don't. . ."

Etc.

[–]Bigdogdom69 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Why do all these groups think flipping the script is going to work? All it will do is change who is being treated shittily, which they all claim to be totally against

[–]Grave_Heresy 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

All it will do is change who is being treated shittily,

I think that's the point for many of these people.

[–]fgrsentinel 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's because they don't care about equality, just "payback." A lot of SJW groups will claim to want equality, but always remember this: when the time to define equality comes and it devolves into discussions of who's oppressed and who's the oppressor, only the ones who don't have a seat at the table can be truly oppressed. Which groups don't have people supporting their interests in the discussion? Which groups are demonized whenever the topic of equality is mentioned, silenced when mention of their problems and hardships comes up?

[–]thatgirlanya 11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

“There will never come a time when a man’s intelligence is questioned based on his looks.” Absolute bull shit. My entire life I have heard women (and men) assuming a man is dumb if he is good looking. What fucking planet does this woman live on

[–]mikesteane 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

"Objectification" is another made up weapon in the arsenal of those seeking victim status. It needs to go in the bin along with "patriarchy", "the pay gap" and "toxic masculinity". The world does not work the way all these words suggest and buying into the ideas will only lead to a distorted world view and consequent problems for the believer.

[–]Grave_Heresy 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Whether it exists isn't the point. It's the fact that she literally endorses a behavior in one sex that she condemns in another. Like you can't make this sh!t up lol

I agree on the "toxic masculinity" though. That's made up nonsense.

[–]mikesteane 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's commonplace in feminism though. All female misbehaviour can be justified by: 1. avenging alleged injustices against women in the past 2. balancing alleged discrimination in our own times (e.g. bonuses and privileges to balance the alleged and untrue pay gap) or 3. because reasons. Logic or consistency doesn't really come into it.

[–]wsmith79 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

scroll down and check out the image of the author.

/end

[–]Grave_Heresy 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Already did... Brutal!

[–]IntellectualKittens 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

But let’s be honest — women are gorgeous. Women of all sizes and shapes. We’re just generally awesome to behold, at any age or weight.

That line right there made me literally laugh out loud here in my apt just now. Haha!

How delusional.

[–]Grave_Heresy 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That's what you're up against in the dating market. That attitude right there 😆

[–]IntellectualKittens 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's some scary shitty opinions that writer has. Us men have to stop taking this shit on the chin.

[–]Grave_Heresy 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We can't help it. The simp gene is strong. You have a large segment of men who will take an "L" if it means impressing a woman.

[–]wwwdontatme 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Neither men nor woman should be objectified. That being said, the first photo is NOT objectifying that person (the woman with her legs up) the model most likely had a choice to take that picture, it is a job. She isn’t being reduced to an object. What I think the author means is Sexualizing someone instead of Objectifying, objectifying is wrong, humans are not objects but Sexualizing is ok when the person being sexualized is of consenting age.

[–]LegendaryEmu1 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

women are gorgeous. Women of all sizes and shapes. We’re just generally awesome to behold, at any age or weight.

So, body positivity, but only for women, a definite narcissist and a self identified feminist. The three things you need to justify being (supposedly) sexist against men.

Its a good thing this was clearly unpopular, but I do not think looking at anyone with desire is a bad thing, or that there is inherent violence or whatever associated with it. Shitty people will do shitty things and there are always people, male or female, who want to be objectified, they like it, thats their choice.

[–]Grave_Heresy 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its a good thing this was clearly unpopular, but I do not think looking at anyone with desire is a bad thing, or that there is inherent violence

It is when a man does it. BAM!

[–]LinkandShiek 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Objectify both sexes. Fanservice is great. Sex sells.

[–]Mack1019872 points 5 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Correct me if I’m wrong but the reason most of us exist is because men and women are sexually attracted to one another and they have sex sometimes. Why do these radical commentaries pretend like this is the worst thing to ever happen?

I’ve known and been around enough female friends to know for a fact that they objectify men to an almost higher degree than men objectify women. I was riding an elevator yesterday with two girl chatting about a guy’s dick (obscurely but they didn’t hide it well enough). Who cares? People like sex. People like having sex with other people they find attractive.

[–]Grave_Heresy 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good point. Sexual objectification is actually a normal part of human interaction.

But you have to remember that these are the same people who are saying that it's r#pe if you change positions during sex without explicitly asking and getting an enthusiastic "yes". They have literally said that it's r#pe if you move your hand to a different spot or kiss the other person on the neck without specifically asking and getting a yes for every single time that you do it. If you kiss her/him one time without asking during sex you have commited assault. In states like CA, it's the law.

EDIT: I don't have a problem with affirmative consent. I'm celibate so there isn't much chance of me getting MeToo'd

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