Man asks AITA if he should use Affirmative Action to help men after realising that 60% of university places are going to women. Unironically gets called an arsehole by everyone.

White_Mlungu_Capital · 2019-08-15T13:03:25+00:00

The purpose of Affirmative Action has gone so far away from its original intent, they might as well do so at this point.

Affirmative Action back when Johnson, Nixon and Carter administrations enacted was created to deal with the reality that African Americans had been heavily discriminated against in America for a long time and that despite passing a series of new laws like the civil rights act and supreme court cases like brown v board were being ignored by many people. Further there had become ingrained a series of entrenched attitudes among many powerful and high ranking people running institutions and doing hiring and admissions who simply refused to comply with the laws in this regard and regardless of actual skill, talent, etc. would not give African Americans a chance. It further recognized that the government had a large hand in this by passing all the discriminatory laws to limit opportunities of African Americans and had some moral basis to try to overturn the problem it created.

The program had over time then been challenged by a series of activist group ranging from women, gays,trans, disable, immigrants, border jumpers, midgets, military vets, Jews, Hispanics, Asians, Native Indians (like Elizabeth Warren) and anyone else who wasn't basically a straight able bodied white man. They had basically argued they had some disadvantage too and therefore should be included. This essentially "poisoned the well" so to speak and the program should just be ended at this point or permit white men in. Less than 1% of Affirmative Action goes to the actual original intended recipients of African Americans, who actually have a substantial grievance with the government and institutions who openly had policies barring their admission. How is it that America owes people coming from Panama or Arabia as illegals who were themselves slaveholders? The Native Indians fought longer to keep blacks enslaved than the confederacy did which was why the government had to pass the freedman indian treaty.

All I really see in Affirmative Action is every non-white-male group using the suffering of African Americans under the banner of minority, to come up with a backhanded way to get an advantage over white men. I have trouble seeing how white women are disadvantaged to white men when there is a well documented history of a widocracy in Virginia going back to the 1700s (yes the women were often richer than the men and ran the government through their donations to male politicians). While it was true women had limited voting rights until the 1920s, that was only because white women were considered a protected political class who was exempted from military service despite enjoying all the other benefits of the nation and it was part of a chivalrous system which viewed woman as to be protected. White women outlive white men so get their money when they die, they spend most of the household income, etc, etc.

If men truly had more power than women in America, America would have laws restricting women's abilities like Saudi Arabia. Instead, we have the reverse, men who owe child support to women cannot leave the country.

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2019-08-15T11:54:36+00:00

That thread is a good example of why we need mensrights.

Whatever_YouWant · 2019-08-15T15:41:24+00:00

Blah blah blah shove this stupid incel logic up your ass. These applicants have worked their asses off to get where they are and you want to play favorites based on what body parts they have? I hope the department of labor and the department of justice come down on you like a ton of bricks if you do this. This is not okay in any way at all.

When the tables are turned... Suddenly they accept the validity of this argument.

insane_playzYT · 2019-08-15T12:05:02+00:00

wtf people in the comments are saying affirmative action is not real

oh and yes, females are the privelleged gender

MarsNirgal · 2019-08-15T12:25:46+00:00

Well, to be honest the way he presents his point seems more like he's trying to convince people than looking for an opinion, which is against the rules of AITA.

IThrewAwayMyPassword · 2019-08-15T12:35:48+00:00

Seems like a troll post. Most of the comments are calling it out as such.

mensmod · 2019-08-15T19:53:53+00:00

He is the asshole for shitposting. He violated the rules of that subreddit.

FillerTank · 2019-08-15T11:40:52+00:00

What would you have commented, OP?

Title	Man asks AITA if he should use Affirmative Action to help men after realising that 60% of university places are going to women. Unironically gets called an arsehole by everyone.
Author	Men-Are-Human
Upvotes	160
Comments	11
Date	August 15, 2019 10:45 AM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/cqo61t/man_asks_aita_if_he_should_use_affirmative_action/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/man-asks-aita-if-he-should-use-affirmative-action.1204820 https://theredarchive.com/post/1204820

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