Men are men biggest enemy

HonestlyKindaOverIt · 2024-08-14T08:52:46+00:00

To an extent, yes.

I don’t think you’ll ever get widespread male solidarity in the way women do, mostly because when it comes to it, a lot of “sneaky males” are quite happy to throw everyone else under the bus if they think they’ll get some.

We all know that guy that’s a bit pathetic, weedy, no one’s first choice and doesn’t have any kids of his own but became stepfather for someone else’s at a certain point in life and acts like he’s all that. Those types will always undermine any kind of collective action if it will benefit them on an individual level.

There’s another type of guy - “I’m fine, therefore, fuck the rest of you”. I just don’t think that collective community aspect will ever happen in the way we need for real social change.

They’re part of the bigger problem. I wouldn’t say men are men’s biggest enemy, but some men definitely ensure that most action will be undermined to one level or another.

Surv1ver · 2024-08-14T09:27:08+00:00

In psychology and sociology it’s called women are wonderful effect. Both men and women have an unconscious bias associating more positive traits with women than men.

Johntoreno · 2024-08-14T10:35:47+00:00

3 women combined are physically no match for ONE average man, nature wants human species to prosper and so as a failsafe to ensure Women's safety, it has programmed to Men view themselves as individuals instead of a group like Women do and the only way men can maintain strong bonding is in lockstep. If Men had an in group bias like women do, then every feminist claim about "Patriarchal Tyranny" would be a reality instead of the myth it is.

Spins13 · 2024-08-14T08:46:20+00:00

You are victim blaming.

Father’s lives would be much better if they could see their kids without giving up all their resources. Young men’s lives would be much better without going to war or to jail. Men would be much better if they were treated equally in education and in the workforce.

There are real reasons for depression and loneliness, and I would argue they are societal issues where everyone has their part in responsibility

sanitaryinspector · 2024-08-14T09:53:21+00:00

Everyone is an enemy if we don't grow empathy for each other

whosiewhatsie67 · 2024-08-14T11:29:33+00:00

I agree with you completely. If we men worked together, we could decimate feminism inside of a year. It wouldn't even be a contest. Feminism depends on its ability to convince us not to fight it. It does a very good job of brainwashing us against ourselves. But if we see through the lies, then we're responsible to fight it. That means speaking up. Then the problem is reaching a critical mass of socially and politically aware men. At that point, the end of feminism would be achieved with "Bitch, please" ease. The writing would be on the wall and I predict even our most committed enemies would back down. Why? I don't know why. That's just how it is. When we mean for things to be a certain way, it will be that way.

I do believe our survival depends on improving skill sets and competencies that aren't familiar to some of us. Some of us aren't very good at relationships. I don't see how we can fix feminism without doing a better job supporting each other mentally and emotionally. What I see going on sometimes even in places like this, places that should be and have to be safe havens for men is deeply troubling. If it were up to me to assign grades, there are a few who would be getting F's.

Somebody said, "Don't blame the victim," and it's true. But being victims doesn't and can't mean we're allowed to do nothing. We simply cannot afford to sit around and wait for feminists to give a F about us. Instead, we need to really clearly understand we are surrounded on all sides by powerful enemies. In fact, let's be crystal clear. It's not just that the lions are out to hunt. We're already on the ground with our head in the lion's mouth. In the slow motion savagery that has been unfolding in the Western world since the 60s, the jaw of the feminist is already closing down as we speak to complete the kill. No, we cannot wait for feminists to give us permission to fight for our lives. They will never give us that permission.

At the risk of being further downvoted, consider the example of Israel. The whole world is demanding that Israel stand down -- not only its longstanding Muslim enemies but also its historical allies in the West. Remarkably, Israel refuses to bow to this pressure. Israel believes that it fights for its very survival. It isn't waiting for anybody's permission. You don't have to agree with Israel, but you'd better deeply imbibe its attitude towards its enemies and its so-called friends if you want to survive, because we men are in the same boat. The entire world is demanding that we stand down, but the truth is that we are the object of a gendercide. Our survival is at stake. We have no meaningful choice but to fight. We need to become, like Israel, shamelessly committed to our own success.

mr_ogyny · 2024-08-14T09:46:25+00:00

For the lack of better terms, whiteknights and simps definitely contribute to aspects of misandry.

I don't think loneliness is one of them. A lot of men don't feel safe to open up to their own wives because of how she or other women have responded in the past. You would expect emotional support as a basic thing from your partner. When you're in that situation, you feel like a tool that is exploited to provide and not really loved as a person which can make men feel lonely.

The type of men that are a problem are the ones that are dismissive of other men.

A man says he had the police called on him because he was with his kid in the park. 'That's never happened to me, therefore, it's not a real issue'. It's like a woman who's never been catcalled, saying it doesn't happen to other women.
The guys who dismiss male victims of abuse because 'it happens to women more' or 'women have it worse'.
Men who always take the side of women.

The_ZMD · 2024-08-14T09:57:26+00:00

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Title	Men are men biggest enemy
Author	Sunapr1
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Date	August 14, 2024 8:21 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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