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"Men can't be equal opportunity representative" and they can't participate in the vote either, says German jury [Germany]

Alvin853

October 10, 2017
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http://www.zeit.de/gesellschaft/zeitgeschehen/2017-10/mecklenburg-vorpommern-gleichstellungsbeauftragte-klage-landesbeamter
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Title "Men can't be equal opportunity representative" and they can't participate in the vote either, says German jury [Germany]
Author

Alvin853

Upvotes 65
Comments 11
Date October 10, 2017 6:49 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/75j7q1/men_cant_be_equal_opportunity_representative_and/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/men-cant-be-equal-opportunity-representative-and.1175019
https://theredarchive.com/post/1175019

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[–]lostapwbm 20 points21 points22 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Das Gleichstellungsgesetz sei in erster Linie noch immer auf die Frauenförderung ausgerichtet. (The Equality Act is still directed primarily towards the advancement of women.)

"Feminism means Equality!" And "equality" in feminism parlance means, "women win and men get fucked over."

[–]DerwahreKerder 24 points25 points26 points 8 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

My country :) The judge said, that women are still opressed, because the CEOs are mostly men. Also work women more often in unpayed jobs in the care sector. Which means they stay at home with the kids. You cant make that shit up. Unpayed jobs in the care sector.

[–]snake_and_scorpion 19 points20 points21 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

There's no such thing as unpaid stay-at-home parent. They have their lifestyle supported by their spouses while they stay at home, that IS their pay. I don't understand why people just can't see this.

[–]DerwahreKerder 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think the wording is ridiculous. Do i have an unpaid job in the waste disposal sector, everytime i bring out the trash? Whats with my unpaid job as a chef? I cook almost everyday, where is my payment? And what about my unpayed job as a cleaning person? I clean stuff all the time without payment. That can't be right. That is not justice. That is fraud. Someone needs to be punished for this! >:(

[–]Ted8367 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Fighting discrimination by discriminating. A higher form of logic.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A higher form of logic

One that sane people cannot even comprehend.

[–]SaudiMRA12 points 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

In other words, only a woman can decide what is equality between the sexes.

Alles klar.

[–]troaweiix 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Verfassungsrechtlich ist nicht klar vorgegeben, wer solche Posten übernehmen darf. Das Grundgesetz will beides: Einerseits darf niemand wegen seines Geschlechtes benachteiligt oder bevorzugt werden, andererseits soll der Staat "die tatsächliche Durchsetzung der Gleichberechtigung von Frauen und Männern" fördern. So lange Frauen also unterrepräsentiert und benachteiligt sind, sind auch einseitig korrigierende Maßnahmen vom Recht abgedeckt. Dies hat das LVerfG in Greifswald nun bestätigt.

In terms of constitutional law it is not clearly defined/predetermined, who may occupy such positions. The Basic Law for the Federal Republic of Germany wants both: On one hand nobody may be disadvantaged or prefered because of his sex, on the other hand the state should promote "the factual enforcement of equal rights between women and men". As long as women are underrepresented or disadvantaged, those corrective measures are covered by the law. This was now confirmed by the [Landesverfassungsgericht-constitutional court]LVerfG in Greifswald.

edit: clarity

[–]Mens-Advocate 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How are they disadvantaged if they live longer?

And how are they underrepresented? Cannot a male leader represent a female constituent?

[–]kartu3 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, at least:

Die Entscheidung fiel mehrheitlich, aber nicht einstimmig.

Not all judges agreed with this ruling.

[–]kartu3 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Note that this was raised by a single part time working farther that he was discriminated against for having a penis.

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