Mens point in life

Partofrhe · 2022-02-05T01:40:07+00:00

Ik. Even people on this sub probably won't agree with you, but I do.

DianeticDelight · 2022-02-05T02:55:50+00:00

Don’t let people tell you your experiences aren’t based in reality or that it’s a bad take or whatever. I resonate with a lot of what you said. Try to have a nice weekend, all the best.

judasfire · 2022-02-05T11:17:18+00:00

That's all in the past now. Live your life peacefully as a man without this female drama and constant depression.

Marriage is a death sentence for men nowadays , having a child is bait , you end up giving her a baby and 18 years of constant payments. Women don't wanna start families anymore , they just want to secure a quick business opportunity for 18 years.

And just how you say women don't need men anymore , men never needed women in their lives from the beginning of time. You can cook , clean , go shopping , iron your clothes all by yourself , if you want sex , you have a prostitute ready for you anytime , so what do men need women for??

There are some good women left in the world , but they are a very small percentage.

IllOpportunity3029 · 2022-02-05T02:20:23+00:00

Don’t put your dick in crazy. Borderline/Bipolar/Narcissist. That’s step one.

I’m an outlier. I consider myself to be a “TradWife” lol. I need my husband. He provides for me and our children. I’m loyal to the bitter end. Even if we are having a rough patch. I will not cheat, even if he cheats.

I’m no feminist and I’m a private Christian. Not sure if those have anything to do with it. We didn’t meet each other until our 30s. He was worth the wait.

Yesyesnaaooo · 2022-02-05T07:02:35+00:00

Listen to some Alan Watts, meditate and understand that existence is absurd and you have to create your own meaning. The story you tell yourself about your life defines who you are.

coffeedaiquiri · 2022-02-06T13:54:08+00:00

So what exactly is your solution?

UnconventionalXY · 2022-02-05T04:25:32+00:00

You are not wrong: society has been pushing the marriage and kids happiness fantasy forever, when it has all been about continuation of the species. I don't think either side has been truly happy, merely making the best of a biological situation and whether that situation has favoured men or women tends to change, but it never has been pursued to achieve an equal outcome in happiness: at best it happens by chance.

The mere idea of one person meeting all your needs is ridiculous: that's a huge burden to place on another person. There hasn't even been education about sex, let alone relationships until relatively recently and that still seems to be cursory and the notion of spreading the burden of happiness doesn't seem to have entered the minds of many.

However, society has not seriously addressed the mutual happiness issue, I'm not even sure that has ever been an objective versus simply growing the population for economic benefit and/or the benefit of vested interests: it tends to pander to the squeaky wheel at best to maintain some sort of balance.

Currently women are the squeaky wheel and are being given advantage over men. It's not just a relationship men should be concerned about, but the trend to create anything that results in a woman being uncomfortable to be criminalised. It started with sexual assault, but is creeping scope: "raping someone with their eyes" may have started off as a joke, but I think women really do want to make looking at a woman, in a way she doesn't like, as a crime equivalent to violent penetrative rape.

But getting back to the mens point in life, the biological point in nature of any organism is to perpetuate the species and each member is tailored to do that: happiness doesn't really enter into it. However, human beings have awareness and intelligence to reach beyond nature to more advanced perspectives such as happiness and fulfilment, but they also have to contend with vices such as greed and selfishness.

A man's biological "point" is to spread his seed widely and he has been given the sex drive to do that. I would suggest his rational point in life is to seek happiness and fulfilment for himself and others as much as that is practicable and achieve a win-win in all aspects of his existence and impact on his surroundings. Merging the two points is where it becomes complex.

Is having a loving family what you actually do want, or is it what you have been conditioned to want as the only acceptable option? Children are hard work and although there are benefits, sacrifices have to made: you can't have everything you want. It's telling that biology drugs men and women to get them to go through with procreation: that suggests it is more trouble than people would normally take on board sober. Relationships too are hard work, when men and women are driven by different objectives and women are the primary source of sex but also completely control its access, with the potential for extortion.

If you work out what are the components you fundamentally require to achieve happiness, then perhaps that can be achieved via a number of different sources, depending on the component. Sexual fulfilment, friendship, companionship and even unconditional love do not necessarily have only a single option of one woman to achieve it. If you want unconditional love, get a dog. If you want sexual fulfilment, try first exploring your own erotic potential, but beyond that, women aren't the only possibilities as consenting sexual partners, but you will need to address homophobic conditioning. The main requirement is that you treat each of the sources with respect, whatever they happen to be.

Having children is more complicated, but then you really need to want children and be prepared to sacrifice to go through that process.

In my opinion, it is time we separated sexual fulfilment from procreation as both can not be guaranteed together and we start to ensure that procreation is not such a sacrifice that we have to force people to do it and achieve a half-hearted result merely to continue the species, or worse, simply to grow the economy without limit, but as a reasoned process that some give willing informed consent to. It's time we stopped pretending we are making intelligent choices for the future instead of blindly following our biological fundamentals with a bit of intelligent spin.

Men and women simply are not compatible over the long term: it's obvious in the way nature has to drug them to go through with procreation. However, despite love-drugging, humans can control procreation to simply enjoy the experience, if they choose to do so and choose to more intelligently address gene selection so that happiness for the many is achieved along with procreation (instead of 100% of women going for 20% of men and leaving much misery for both sides in their wake).

GulchDale · 2022-02-05T00:53:34+00:00

Just gonna say it, you're assumption about women in general is a bad take. If you're an interesting well adjusted person, you'll attract interesting well adjusted people. If you're greedy, cynical, lazy, or pessimistic you'll attract those types. All you can do is work on yourself and make good decisions about the people you surround yourself with.

And relationships are like any risk you take. Sure there are downsides, but if you always focus on the risk and not the reward you're going to lead a boring life.

At the end of the day, you have to decide what your life is going to about. Do what makes you happy.

ArticRex · 2022-02-05T18:23:00+00:00

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Title	Mens point in life
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