Needing help - does anyone have good clear precise examples of feminist man hating? Mutual friend doesn't think it exists

DownrightCaterpillar · 2019-01-17T14:49:12+00:00

NOW has been fighting for decades to prevent equal parenting rights.

Feminist organizations left and right (including academics) created and pushed the Duluth model, which states that women only use violence in self defense. This means, that any police department trained in the Duluth Model are required to arrest the male, even if he is the one reporting being abused (because if she will only use violence in self defense, and she's using violence, obviously she's defending herself from him).

That's just two...

The UN organization for Gender Equality (UN Women) measures gender equality as women are doing as good or better than men.

Literally, it's gender equal if men are disadvantaged.

abananaa1 · 2019-01-17T15:23:41+00:00

40 years of concealing, distorting and harassing people into thinking domestic abuse is only a womans issue. I've personally seen the effects, even supposed non-gendered crisis charities are set up only for women in the case of domestic abuse, and refuse and deny you are a victim when you are an abused man looking for help. Women initiate more altercations, and men finish more altercations being violent. Men make up about 1/3 of deaths. There's minor differences overall, most non-feminist places say it's about 60% women need the help, 40% men need the help. Children also get nothing if the abuser is a woman. In some places the only help men get is *anger management* to help recover, which I find the darkest thing... Women get billions in support (great in it's own right).. but men get almost nothing, and called "misogynists" for caring about these men. It's based on a long running feminist lie, on of the first pieces of activism laundered as "knowledge" on the now shown to be seriously fallible "grievance studies". It's making the personal (women victim blaming men they are abusing) political. On an institutional scale. Two members of my family died from abuse from women. It runs in the family, and I can tell you it comes from men and women alike. Bullying and controlling others is generational not gendered, just like school. And if you happen to only care for women, male members brutalised by their mother are now abusing their female partner.. so the cycle continues and keeps feminists with jobs and (female) patients, men just end up dying early or homeless if it's so bad they might have gone to a refuge. Trouble is, is created people like me who want to talk about it, and we're becoming ever more numerous as male abusers get the help they need but women stay at large. Basically its massively taboo for feminists to talk about their abuse of men (many feminists also were abused and/or are abusers hiding their abuse, hence the radical views, and explains what we see when they make the personal political) so it stays undercover, and report it's "100% females being brutalised" when they can get away with it. It's getting a little better but it shows you what feminism is really for.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233717660_Thirty_Years_of_Denying_the_Evidence_on_Gender_Symmetry_in_Partner_Violence_Implications_for_Prevention_and_Treatment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irVB8b0zhQI

Lieandcomplain · 2019-01-17T16:49:22+00:00

Is she dense... By saying it doesn't exist she's proving your point...

LethiasWVR · 2019-01-17T16:49:26+00:00

While she'd probably not appreciate the source of the article, this has some gems in it.
Similar here
Again, you're probably better off not just sending the article and instead citing the primary sources, but consider the articles a shopping list, as it were.
These are more insidious, in my mind, than a modern quote because it shows the kind of ideas that formed the inception of the movement, as opposed to the notion that it started pure and was somehow corrupted in the modern day.

jak_22 · 2019-01-17T19:51:13+00:00

Just answer: "So you are saying... not ALL women do this?"

Rethgil · 2019-01-17T22:31:56+00:00

If your 'friend' doesnt believe it, how come they arent simply going online to try debate feminists on Reddit?

Within seconds they'd see man hate, abuse, smears and anger to men.

Why do they need our help to see for themselves, if they genuinely actually are curious?

joenastyness · 2019-01-18T05:49:33+00:00

If she cannot empathize with your feelings then she is not your friend. I had a girl tell me once that if men didn’t exist then there would be no such thing as war. YEAH NO FUCKING WAR! Yikes. Honestly, who is the toxic gender?!

abananaa1 · 2019-01-17T23:12:52+00:00

Actually I got a solid one. They send death threats to Erin Pizzey (ex feminist), the founder if the Refuge movement and exile her as a traitor when she says that women can, sometimes, be abusers too, and that abused men should be helped too. Her criticism of feminism is spot on.

double-happiness · 2019-01-18T00:39:31+00:00

IDK why you keep saying 'women who...', when there are many male feminists. If it's feminists you really want to talk about, that's what you should say, not 'women', IMHO.

Anyway, this link has a lot of relevant info.: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/g2eme/feminists_tell_you_that_the_solution_to_mens/

lookafist · 2019-01-18T13:41:31+00:00

Examples of feminist man-hating?

How about an op-ed by a feminist titled "Why can't we hate men?" published in a national newspaper?

How about hugely influential feminist Sally Gearheart? From her Wikipedia entry:

In her early career, Gearhart took part in a series of seminars at San Francisco State University, where feminist scholars were critically discussed issues of rape, slavery, and the possibility of nuclear annihilation. Gearhart outlines and justifies a three-step proposal for female-led social change:

I) Every culture must begin to affirm a female future. II) Species responsibility must be returned to women in every culture. III) The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race.

Gearhart does not base this radical proposal on the idea that men are innately violent or oppressive, but rather on the "real danger is in the phenomenon of male-bonding, that commitment of groups of men to each other whether in an army, a gang, a service club, a lodge, a monastic order, a corporation, or a competitive sport."

Or how about Robin Morgan? She wrote:

I feel that "man-hating" is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them. And although there are exceptions (as in everything), i.e., men who are trying to be traitors to their own male class, most men cheerfully affirm their deadly class privileges and power. And I hate that class.

Vman2 · 2019-01-18T14:40:29+00:00

What about the SCUM manifesto? SCUM meant the Society for Cutting Up Men.

Better still Rent a copy of the Red Pill movie and watch it with her.

abananaa1 · 2019-01-17T22:03:04+00:00

Hmm, randomly came across this... https://youtu.be/1oVyQGmD3d8 Could be good.

DavidByron2 · 2019-01-17T23:49:06+00:00

Birth of feminism in the US: meeting organizers passed a resolution declaring war on men and saying that men throughout all time and all societies had deliberately and repeatedly beaten and raped and attacked women just to fuck them over. Feminism is a hate movement.

JohnMcCainToHell · 2019-01-17T23:53:58+00:00

Oh, it's a fucking thing sweetheart.

PurpleAngel23 · 2019-01-18T02:24:20+00:00

That’s her problem! Don’t argue with the idiots. They bring you down.

Title	Needing help - does anyone have good clear precise examples of feminist man hating? Mutual friend doesn't think it exists
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Date	January 17, 2019 2:38 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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