r/men_of_the_wall | MensRights

fen90der · 2019-12-10T18:38:20+00:00

Just a sub I found that is about ridiculing men. reported it for being offensive. perhaps do the...

[–]Lethn 11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago* (55 children) | Copy Link

No, the more of these sorts of subs the better, the fence sitters won't be able to claim they're a minority when they spread all over reddit since the admins turn a blind eye to this stuff constantly.

Took a look and it looks like FemaleDatingStrategy except instead of ranting about dating they've taken to attacking men for pointing out that they're going to hit the biological wall with the way they're acting not realising that it's nothing to do with looks and more to do with having children etc.

It's really fascinating, these all seem to be desperate women in their late 20's and general 30's and they're creating these subs to throw temper tantrums and pick fights with men they don't like because reality is finally hitting them, they couldn't be bigger stereotypes.

I agree it's fucked up they're even doing this but this kind of shit is invaluable to us and I don't even want to see them banned because they expose the feminist movement for what it really is. It's nothing more than an outlet for these kind of morons to attack men with even providing legal cover for their harassment and incitement and then you have these phoney moderates who will defend their behaviour and pretend they're a non-entity.

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The biological wall isn't about attraction it's about having children, looks do have a part to play a bit but the fact that both of you responding to me are making it all about that to try and get uppity shows you're being disingenuous.

What a lot of women at this age are in denial about is they think they can just magically have kids at any age and that men will still be all over them by the time they hit 40. This isn't the case, it's a biological fact and that's not taking into account the personality aspect which you're completely ignoring as well where men simply aren't going to want women like this who have been sleeping around their whole lives and only want a relationship when things go bad for them.

Feminists lied to women that they could have it all and now they're paying the price.

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It’s about knowing your worth, improving your worth and finding a partner who can match what you bring to the table.

How is it about improving your worth?

I'm subbed to a handful of different gender specific dating subs from all over reddit and I find them to generally be pretty toxic, but there was a difference between the male and female ones I wasnt able to put my finger on for quite a while. And then it hit me that the male oriented subs focused a lot on self improvement: if you want a better relationship or sex life, lift, groom, get a better job, be more confident, etc., i.e. you are not ideal or perfect or automatically deserving of access to good sex or a relationship - you have to change yourself to earn these things. The female centric subs invariably seem to believe women are all already entitled to good sex and relationships sans any work on themselves; the only thing I've regularly seen there that could possibly be construed as "self improvement" is just telling women to stop associating with low value men. But stuff like "fix your appearance, lose weight, work on your personality, bring more to the table" seems almost totally absent on female dominated dating subs. Like IIRC there was a post a couple months ago which summed up subs like FDS perfectly in which a tweet was basically saying that by virtue of having a functioning womb and vagina (so like 98% of all women under a certain age) a woman is entitled to a 6'2" six figure, six pack sex god. So basically just being born a woman entitled them to the top 1% of men in the dating pool.

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[–]Lethn 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (30 children) | Copy Link

Are you seriously trying to be that petty as to reverse this on us and make it out that we're the problem? Again, you don't fucking understand, the biological wall people talk about has nothing to do with looks and attraction, it's about whether or not you're even capable of having children.

You can be drop dead gorgeous in your 30's but once you get to your 40's and menopause hits you can't suddenly turn around say "Okay I'm ready for a relationship now" because you won't be able to have children. It's honestly disturbing how many women like you seem to believe this bullshit, you have been lied to, go and study some basic biology.

It's also to do with personality as well, do you honestly think after 20 - 30 years of sleeping around and frankly being a general slut ( Yes I went there get over it, I'm not just talking about casual sex either but cheating and generally being disloyal ) men are going to suddenly scramble over each other to be with someone like that? If you only have a local dating pool to choose from you will have ruined your reputation and all the men around you by the time you hit your 40's will have moved on from you and gone for women who actually like men.

You and that sub are a classic example of why I say women should never take advice from women about men. The whole community their has been born from a fundamental misunderstanding of what men actually want in a relationship.

You're only 19 right now, take my advice and do not hang out with petty and bitter women like this because they will drag you down with them. Guys talk to each other and they do look out for each other just like women do, they're not going to want you as you get older if they know you're a psycho who just likes to manipulate men and sleep around for fun because you can and uses feminist bullshit to justify it.

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The biological wall is different for every woman. And the wall is about losing your looks as far as both the subreddits go. we aren’t blaming anything on men. We are just letting them know that old men aren’t nearly as attractive as young men. You seem to not know what both these subs are about.

Relationships Don’t require children and my mom and all my aunts have babies in their 40s I have a literal 3 year old sister. Again the wall is mostly about looks on these subs we rarely mention pregnancy. You are confused.

No one is talking about sleeping around. Regardless I wouldn’t want a male that has been around like that either so I get that but again that’s not the purpose of this sub🤦🏻‍♀️

THAT SUB ISNT ABOUT MEN OR RELATIONSHIPS. It’s about men losing their LOOKS over a period of time. Anyway, I really don’t care what men want in a relationship. I’m voluntarily celebrate. Women are better off. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Feminism isn’t exactly about sleeping around or not... and most men sleep around so why do I have to keep my virtue ? Double standards

[–]Lethn 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link

Relationships Don’t require children and my mom and all my aunts have babies in their 40s I have a literal 3 year old sister. Again the wall is mostly about looks on these subs we rarely mention pregnancy. You are confused.

No one is talking about sleeping around. Regardless I wouldn’t want a male that has been around like that either so I get that but again that’s not the purpose of this sub

You are in denial and these quotes demonstrate it big time.

THAT SUB ISNT ABOUT MEN OR RELATIONSHIPS. It’s about men losing their LOOKS over a period of time. Anyway, I really don’t care what men want in a relationship. I’m voluntarily celebrate. Women are better off.

I think you mean you're voluntarily celibate, well at least you admit you're basically a femcel but again. All I'm going to say is the women who set up this sub and grew this community just like FemaleDatingStrategy are going to drag young women like you down with them because they hate men.

That sub has barely anything to do with what you describe, when you actually look at the content initially it's about looks at first but it's just filled with in denial women who can't find long term boyfriends and you're joining in with them.

I'm starting to think that women like you and incels are made for each other, just don't drag innocent people into your bullshit.

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It’s a fact that it varies when women can and can’t get pregnant. I’m sorry you can’t accept biology. And I’m in denial because I don’t want a make that has fucked all my friends? What? Are you joking?

I think you mean you're voluntarily celibate, well at least you admit you're basically a femcel but again. All I'm going to say is the women who set up this sub and grew this community just like FemaleDatingStrategy are going to drag young women like you down with them because they hate men.

I’m not a femcel I can easily get laid. Check my page.

I’m not going to get married young then have kids and get fat and depressed while my husband goes lusting after younger women. That’s the true nature of men. Never satisfied with one woman. Those communities didn’t drag anyone down. I went looking for them to conform the truths I’ve read about and witnessed.

Lmao and that sub only has to do with looks. Can you read?

I'm starting to think that women like you and incels are made for each other, just don't drag innocent people into your bullshit.

Incels aren’t like femcels

And I’m not a femcel. I’m choosing to put men out of my life. They do more harm than good. You are a great example of that

[–]Lethn 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago* (26 children) | Copy Link

I’m not a femcel I can easily get laid. Check my page.

For women it's not about getting laid it's about finding long term boyfriends, you can brag about how much you get laid all you want but I bet you can't hold down a boyfriend for shit otherwise you wouldn't be here picking a fight along with the other women from these ridiculous subs.

I’m not going to get married young then have kids and get fat and depressed while my husband goes lusting after younger women. That’s the true nature of men. Never satisfied with one woman. Those communities didn’t drag anyone down. I went looking for them to conform the truths I’ve read about and witnessed.

This right here, is exactly what I'm talking about, this is the viewpoint of bitter and cynical women who can't get into a relationship so they blame men for their problems. You are being dragged right into their mentality and you can't even recognise it.

And I’m not a femcel. I’m choosing to put men out of my life. They do more harm than good. You are a great example of that

This is why people on this sub have coined the phrase femcel, again, women like you can get laid, but you're not in any kind of fulfilling relationship. So now you're blaming men for all your problems and swearing them off despite the fact that your 19. Contrary to the popular belief of most women, men do actually have standards when it comes to who they spend their lives with, sex is one thing, relationships are another.

I haven't done shit to you by the way, the only thing I'm doing is making you severely question your skewed worldview and it's making you uncomfortable. It's what most men here do and this is why we get angry femcels lashing out at us because they know we're actually right about them and have figured out their bullshit and the way they treat men so the label us in the worse way possible and try to smear our reputations.

If all you do is sleep around in your 20's and onward you are never going to get into a genuine relationship with a guy you actually like. Your own behaviour will stab you in the back and it will be entirely your fault, no one wants to marry or be in a long term relationship with a rabid man-hater that does nothing but sleep around with men and treat them like shit.

This has nothing to do with men, it's all about you, I do feel genuinely sorry for women who legitimately have bad luck because it happens but I have absolutely no sympathy for women who treat men like shit then cry that no one will be their boyfriend on reddit afterwards.

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For women it's not about getting laid it's about finding long term boyfriends, you can brag about how much you get laid all you want but I bet you can't hold down a boyfriend for shit otherwise you wouldn't be here picking a fight along with the other women from these ridiculous subs.

I had two boyfriends and both were over 2 years. With men it’s not a problem with getting in a relationship with them it’s a problem when trying to keep them after marriage and when you had all your children. Most men aren’t up to that task. Stats can prove it. It seems you are missing the point. You are probably still very young. I’m assuming.

And these subs recognize the trie nature of men that’s why we don’t want nothing to do with them. This is not about trying to get a relationship with men. I’m not bitter because I can’t hold down a long term life of indentured servitude. I’m smart because I recognize that getting into a relationship and trying to form long lasting emotional and physical connection with people who own penises is a very bad idea. For many reasons I can gladly list if you just ask.

This right here, is exactly what I'm talking about, this is the viewpoint of bitter and cynical women who can't get into a relationship so they blame men for their problems. You are being dragged right into their mentality and you can't even recognise it.

I’ve been in relationships and it’s not about that at all. I don’t think you have the brain power to understand because if a woman has one complaint about a man then she is bitter but if you have complaints about women then you are justified. You can’t see across your own double standards.

When did I blame men for a single problem? You are jumping to assumption because your preconceived notions about feminism. When feminism is in categories these days and not one big group.

Men are part of the problem but it’s their nature that unfortunately they can’t get away from and they can’t resist. And I don’t want to have anything to do with it.

This is why people on this sub have coined the phrase femcel, again, women like you can get laid, but you're not in any kind of fulfilling relationship, so now you're blaming men for all your problems and swearing them off despite the fact that your 19.

I’ve already addressed this. It’s clear that you are a surface dwelling sheep.

I haven't done shit to you by the way, the only thing I'm doing is making you severely question your skewed worldview and it's making you uncomfortable. It's what most men here do and this is why we get angry femcels lashing out at us because they know we're actually right about them and have figured out their bullshit and the way they treat men so the label us in the worse way possible and try to smear our reputations.

When did I say that you did anything to me? You stay pulling this victim card. No one is blaming you are your kind for shit. Shut the fuck up damn. We are just acknowledging your true nature and understandingly wanting to stay away from it.

I would be uncomfortable if you started giving me valid points but instead you are giving me regurgitated responses I hear teen boys troll feminist pages on Instagram with. I must admit since you are on Reddit I expected a more advanced response but instead I got... Instagram (for lack of a better word).

Again no one is lashing out at you. Omg. You posted about US. We didn’t bother you. And I’m not even a femcel just a subscriber to “men of the wall”. A perfect example of bashing a group of people that doesn’t care about them Is MGTOW and incels. Mgtow stands for “men going their own way” but that sub is filled with men talking about mostly women. What sense does that make?

And sweetie you don’t need us to smear anything. Your words do it on its own💕

If all you do is sleep around in your 20's and onward you are never going to get into a genuine relationship with a guy you actually like. Your own behaviour will stab you in the back and it will be entirely your fault, no one wants to marry or be in a long term relationship with a rabid man-hater that does nothing but sleep around with men and treat them like shit.

I’m not sure what I want to do in my 20s for now my priority is education. Dick will always be available so it’s not really a concern. I know one thing for sure though, I’m not going to start a relationship with a guy that is a misogynist like you who wants a virgin wife but has fucked his who class.

This has nothing to do with men, it's all about you.

Yes this is all about me not wanting anything to do with people like you.

[–]Lethn 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago* (24 children) | Copy Link

I had two boyfriends and both were over 2 years. With men it’s not a problem with getting in a relationship with them it’s a problem when trying to keep them after marriage and when you had all your children. Most men aren’t up to that task. Stats can prove it. It seems you are missing the point. You are probably still very young. I’m assuming.

I’m not sure what I want to do in my 20s for now my priority is education. Dick will always be available so it’s not really a concern. I know one thing for sure though, I’m not going to start a relationship with a guy that is a misogynist like you who wants a virgin wife but has fucked his who class.

I'm 29, I've seen this sort of shit constantly and I'm a fly on the wall when it comes to this sort of drama. Who do you think is going to have more knowledge about this sort of thing? A 19 year old who by their own admission has had 2 boyfriends over 2 years ( Seriously what the fuck? You are not the catch you think you are if you've done this and you're only 19 ) and you're claiming that you were seriously hoping to hold down a boyfriend? Or a 29 year old who has seen it all unfolding around them and can't be bothered dealing with that sort of bullshit anymore?

This is not going to happen and no, dick will not always be available, you are a walking stereotype and it would be sad if it wasn't so predictable. If you've already had these points posted to you on Instagram then you should seriously start looking at yourself and why you keep getting these posts. Men see through your bullshit now. I don't know why it took them so long to work it out over the generations but it seems now it has finally happened, you're riding high in your teens and 20's now but the wall men speak of isn't just about looks it's about personality and biology. No man who has any self-respect and treats women decently is going to date a woman who has been riding dick her whole life and has your attitude towards men because if you can't even trust them to be in a long term relationship why should they even bother? This is what you're not understanding.

As for my personal beliefs about women, you are full of shit I couldn't care less about virgin status contrary to your obviously very skewed beliefs about men. What I care about is weeding out women like you who blame men for everything wrong in their life while simultaneously treating them like shit because you are toxic for any kind of relationship even when it comes to simply being friends and casually interacting with them. I honestly wouldn't even hang out with someone like you on a casual basis because of your beliefs. I don't need to deal with that kind of ridiculous drama especially being an indie games developer building my own business. I want a girlfriend who actually likes and respects men rather than just assumes the worst about them at every opportunity.

All men who have self-respect are doing the same, you're either going to have to re-adjust your attitude and stop calling men misogynists for pointing this out to you or you're going to be heartlessly going through one man after another until there are none left who will waste their time with you beyond guys who really are just looking for sex. It's incredibly sad because it's a self-fulfilling prophecy of your own making and you just don't like the fact that I'm pointing it out.

Again, you're riding high now because you're young and you think you can treat men like shit and call them misogynists because you can have your pick of whoever you want, but you've been lied to about how long this will last like so many women who buy into this sort of bullshit and it won't last forever. Then like these other women in their 30's particularly feminist women they're going to lash out at subs like this and try to shame men into dating them.

The rest of your post is just you lashing out as usual and doesn't even have a point to it, ironically the very same thing you accuse me of. There's also something interesting you just pointed out to me, you're telling me that dick is easily available for you. You haven't given the slightest consideration to the man attached to that which shows me just how you view men generally.

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I'm 29, I've seen this sort of shit constantly and I'm a fly on the wall when it comes to this sort of drama. Who do you think is going to have more knowledge about this sort of thing? A 19 year old who by their own admission has had 2 boyfriends over 2 years ( Seriously what the fuck? You are not the catch you think you are if you've done this and you're only 19 ) and you're claiming that you were seriously hoping to hold down a boyfriend?

You are seriously not getting my point. It’s hard to believe you are that old. My point was that I have no problem with getting into a relationship. The purpose wasn’t to brag. I’m not hoping to hold down a bf. Did you seriously not read what I was saying?

This is not going to happen and no, dick will not always be available, you are a walking stereotype and it would be sad if it wasn't so predictable. If you've already had these points posted to you on Instagram then you should seriously start looking at yourself and why you keep getting these posts. Men see through your bullshit now. I don't know why it took them so long to work it out over the generations but it seems now it has finally happened, you're riding high in your teens and 20's now but the wall men speak of isn't just about looks it's about personality and biology. No man who has any self-respect and treats women decently is going to date a woman who has been riding dick her whole life and has your attitude towards men because if you can't even trust them to be in a long term relationship why should they even bother? This is what you're not understanding.

Yes dick will always be available. As long as you keep yourself in shape and in most cases you don’t need to do that. We have an unlimited supply of desperate men. You are delusional if you think any woman can’t get sex. Just own up to the fact that men are easy and have that community dick. Only high value males are selective. I see you are using my Instagram comment to get back at me. Lol very original. The wall men only speak about appearances read the description. It’s like you aren’t reading. What you aren’t understanding is that I don’t want men in general they are lazy cheaters and that will never change. I’m not going to save myself for a man who has had casual sex with all my friends. That’s makes no ducking sense. No self respecting woman wants a male who has gave his dick out to anyone who offered. Disgusting.

As for my personal beliefs about women, you are full of shit I couldn't care less about virgin status contrary to your obviously very skewed belief about men. What I care about is weeding out women like you who blame men for everything wrong in their life while simultaneously treating them like shit because you are toxic for any kind of relationship even when it comes to simply being friends and casually interacting with them. I honestly wouldn't even hang out with someone like you on a casual basis because of your beliefs, I don't need to deal with that kind of ridiculous drama especially being an indie games developer building my own business.

WHEN DID I BLAME MEN FOR ANYTHING? When?

Please. Quote. Me. I’ll wait.

You are still trying to be the victim. Yikes

Do you think I just go around harassing men on the streets? What? That’s illegal. I can’t just treat random men like shit. That’s why I talk about it on Reddit and avoid men in real life. Are you ok?

Oh and of course you are game developer with no wife or kids at 29. That makes sense. It’s obvious that you are childish like your incel buddies.

All men who have self-respect are doing the same, you're either going to have to re-adjust your attitude and stop calling men misogynists for pointing this out to you or you're going to be heartlessly going through one man after another until there are none left who will waste their time with you beyond guys who really are just looking for sex. It's incredibly sad because it's a self-fulfilling prophecy of your own making and you just don't like the fact that I'm pointing it out.

What are you pointing out? That all women’s bodies are the exact same and that Health/genetics/environment has nothing to do with her circumstances? Or that adoption or a surrogate isn’t an option? Or that all relationships are based on having children?

All men with self respect are doing what? Fucking around until they find a virgin wife?

I’m so confused.

And again, you seem to not comprehend that I am VOLUNTARILY CELIBATE which means that I want no relations to men. Unless I’m like really horny but then again women don’t even cum from penetration so men are useless in that regard also.

Again, you're riding high now because you're young, but you've been lied to about how long this will last like so many women who buy into this sort of bullshit and it won't last forever. Then like these other women in their 30's particularly feminist women they're going to lash out at subs like this and try to shame men into dating them.

What bs are we buying into?

Everybody gets old so their options get limited that’s common sense. Take yourself as an example, you are still unmarried and you don’t have as many options as a successful 25-28 year old male would have. You are most likely unattractive also so you should take your own advice and hurry up and find a mate.

And the feminists subs I’m subscribed to has nothing to do with this notion because in the grand scheme of things it’s irrelevant when you consider the true male nature. But you won’t be able to understand that.

You shame guys into dating you. That’s not what kind of feminist I am. I don’t care about guys I care about women and our rights

But you can’t comprehend a woman wanting live her life male free.

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Title	r/men_of_the_wall
Author	fen90der
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Date	December 10, 2019 6:38 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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