Setting some records straight on US timelines

MaleEducation1 · 2025-08-11T13:30:21+00:00

Fun fact: Women earned ~20% of the Bachelor's degree in 1920 and~40% in 1930. It was similar for Master's degrees.

Most people would think there were no women at all in college in the 1950's.....

If it wasn't for the G.I. Bill passed in 1944 leading to more male veterans join in college and more males enrolling in college to dodge the vietnam draft, women would have surpassed men in college in earning Bachelor's in 1940's itself rather than early 1980's.

Obviously people will say "Title IX" helped achieve this parity, when it was already bound to happen.

Not to mention, girls have outnumbered boys amongst high school graduates (except for a couple of years) since records were first kept in 1870. It was bad as 60-40 in the 1800's. Boys have also always made the majority of drop outs.

Girls have also gotten better grades than boys in almost all subjects ever since records were kept (110+ years). Same for college since at least 1970's.

Despite the so-called "STEM gap", girls have gotten much better grades and taken more advanced coursework in Matha and Science for the last 40+ years.

Boys did well on standardized testing which might have made this not go to notice. Obviously, no one ever cared about schools being unfriendly to or not well suited for boys, this has been talked about since 1909. Boys were drugged and now there are talks about holding them back a year.

Females have never fallen behind Males in education in the United States since records were kept. Despite this we had bills passed to bridge this "imaginary gap" and so much money wasted on other initiatives.

(Edit:)

I would recommend reading The Myth That Schools Shortchange Girls: Social Science in the Service of Deception (1998) by Professor Judith Kleinfeld, it's really long, but it shows how girls have always been benefitted in education.

SquaredAndRooted · 2025-08-10T22:45:16+00:00

Not heckling but what happened to Frank McNamara's Diners Club card (1950)?
Also the 1978 women's card - was it a branded for women card or they simply couldn't get a card on their own prior to this?

the_1st_inductionist · 2025-08-10T22:58:14+00:00

The assumption for many is "men have always had these rights",

Where are you getting this? I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone talking about this issue that believed that men always had these rights.

Men (visa) 1958

Isn’t this just the time that credit cards got invented? Wouldn’t the more relevant time be all credit transactions? Mortgages, car loans, personal loans, bank accounts (though that’s not a credit transaction).

Women: 1978

Isn’t it 1974 with the Equal Credit Opportunity Act?

Mortgage:

Men: 1938

Where are you getting this date from?

Men: 1870 (still to this day need to register for draft or become felon, fine, jail, and no voting)

Are you picking the date that black men got to vote instead of white men?

Women: 1920 (gets to vote at age 18 no unconditionally)

Do women get to vote if they become a felon?

TenuousOgre · 2025-08-13T20:51:12+00:00

Feminists concentrate so hard in modernity that they miss the vast majority of time when the average person had access to nine of the privileges they ended up getting after average men and women fought for them. More than 200,0000 years humans have been around. A 30 year gap after so,etching is introduced to make it equal opportunity seems like arguing over lint. Most men, through most of history, were not oppressing women deliberately. Both genders had it rough.

Also, the 1820 is for universal voting. Wyoming and Utah had it much earlier, including the right for women to hold office. Thing it, men during WWI who had the right to vote were also subject to draft and having to die for their country at a needlessly deadly war. Women, who got the vote t 1920, have still to this day, never been subject to a draft. Seems a small price to pay for a few decades coming later.

BerrisFurller · 2025-08-11T18:00:50+00:00

The point is: as soon as those things were invented, men had access, women were restricted for years.

Necessary-Pear-2237 · 2025-08-11T02:42:37+00:00

damn so hard for poor men not getting the right to have a visa credit card until visa credit cards were founded, that’s so tough

Title	Setting some records straight on US timelines
Author	brainzhurtin
Upvotes	46
Comments	22
Date	August 10, 2025 10:06 PM UTC (11 months ago)
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