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Sporting plan to boost boys in ballet

Jager720

June 3, 2017
15 upvotes
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40138653
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Title Sporting plan to boost boys in ballet
Author

Jager720

Upvotes 15
Comments 9
Date June 3, 2017 6:08 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/6f2l6j/sporting_plan_to_boost_boys_in_ballet/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/sporting-plan-to-boost-boys-in-ballet.921277
https://theredarchive.com/post/921277
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[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

This is a good excuse to share the scene from Swing Time where Fred Astaire plays Peter Peters from Philadelphia PA pretending to be Petrov, a Russian ballet dancer

Ballet dancing, and the kind of tap dancing that Astaire and Rogers transition into, is sex-differentiated. The man leads the woman, the man lifts the woman.

It would be unacceptably sexist by today's PC standards if it wasn't for the fact that since the 1960s, young people aren't taught formal dancing in boy-girl couples, and heterosexual boys have abandoned dance to gays and girls. So schemes to encourage boys to take up ballet fly under the PC radar because female supremacists believe that ballet will get boys in touch with their feminine side.

On the contrary - learning ballet will teach boys their masculine side in a way that no other activity permits any more. Feminist propaganda films like Billy Elliott depict traditionalist men whose masculinity is threatened when their sons take up ballet. They had hoped to bring their son down to the local rugby club to make a man of him, only for the pansy to take up dancing. But the local rugby club these days has girls' teams as well as boys' teams, and probably mixed teams up to puberty. Boys are not encouraged to feel like men when they step out on the rugby field. The clubs put on toxic masculinity workshops to deal with that kind of attitude. These days, the priority is to encourage girl-power. But strangely enough, boys might be encouraged to feel like men when they lace up a pair of ballet shoes.

[–]galtthedestroyer 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow! Insightful!

[–]rg57 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That is something I hadn't thought of. Thank you.

[–]nforne 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Very interesting. I love it when I'm​ given an entirely new perspective on something I thought that I understood.

[–]rg57 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

As appealing as ballet can be, I have to say that rather than encouraging boys, we should be discouraging everyone.

It's not good for the feet.

[–]Taxus_Calyx 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

good point, same with football, gymnastics, jiu jitsu, tennis. they all take a toll on our kid's bodies that last into adulthood. its a trade off though, there are benefits to being successful at such activities while young.

[–]momandpopheir 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Jiu jitsu and tennis?

[–]Taxus_Calyx -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think this is great. It doesn't seem pertinent to men's rights.

[–]Halafax 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Depends on what you're looking at.

My daughter's recital is tonight. We had dress rehearsal Thursday. The studio we go to doesn't discourage boys, but also makes zero accomodations for them. During dress rehearsal they excluded us from the makeup room, because it shared a door with the changing room. Both rooms had others doors, they just didn't want to be bothered. We made do in a family bathroom with no clean surface to set anything down on, it was the only mirror we could find and the lighting sucked.

The recital is at a college, it's hard to believe they don't have accomodations for mixed productions.

I'm a single dad. It's not my daughter's fault her mom is unstable, I'm still trying to let her have as many experiences as she can. Over and over, the message I get from girl activities is something along the lines of "it's ok if she participates, but we don't know how to handle the details". Same deal with girl scouts, and swimming at the YMCA.

It's fine to encourage boys into dance, but my experience is that it's cheap talk and they aren't willing change their behavior to do it.

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