Targeted Toxic Resilience

antifeminist3 · 2025-07-04T23:32:03+00:00

Feminists falsely frame this toxic masculinity as 'men thinking they cannot show weakness.' You have adopted this frame. It is false:

Dr. Brene Brown is a feminist sociologist who studied shame--the negative feeling you get when someone criticizes you--"you should be ashamed". Women get shamed from a variety of sources. For years she never studied men. When she did, she found men rarely shame other men. Men's shame comes almost exclusively from women and almost exclusively from women's perceptions of men being weak.

'Toxic masculinity' includes 'not showing weakness'. I think 'toxic masculinity' is better framed as women shaming men and women having toxic femininity.

If women suppress men talking about issues, then the only issues that will be discussed are women's issues. This is the matriarchy asserting itself.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib/comments/frj4np/how_brene_brown_discovered_that_male_shame_was/

“Here’s the painful pattern that emerged from my research with men: We ask them to be vulnerable, we beg them to let us in, and we plead with them to tell us when they’re afraid, but the truth is that most women can’t stomach it. In those moments when real vulnerability happens in men, most of us recoil with fear and that fear manifests as everything from disappointment to disgust. And men are very smart. They know the risks, and they see the look in our eyes when we’re thinking, C’mon! Pull it together. Man up. As Joe Reynolds, one of my mentors and the dean at our church, once told me during a conversation about men, shame, and vulnerability, “Men know what women really want. They want us to pretend to be vulnerable. We get really good at pretending.” -- Brené Brown

https://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archive/2013/04/messages-of-shame-are-organized-around-gender/275322/

It is women, not men who try to suppress men. It is best referred to as toxic feminity.

Repulsive_Lab5656 · 2025-07-05T00:02:30+00:00

"Woman up" isn't a saying. Women don't have this said to them. Women get told in round about ways to shut up, but their weaknesses are rarely if ever challenged.

No_Treacle_1461 · 2025-07-04T20:56:49+00:00

Toxic masculinity is female projecting. It's called vile femeninity. Both my nieces were bullied at school BY GIRLS. MY nephew loved school. And that's even with the blatant sexism and discrimination he faces.

Rare-Discipline3774 · 2025-07-04T16:05:02+00:00

Masculinity, as boiled down throughout history, can be described as everything that is forward in logos, practicality, the physical, and subtlety in emotion.

Femininity is everything forward in ethos, pathos, expression, communication, and has no requirement of logos.

These definitions provide ample space to explain the differences in men throughout history, and in women throughout history.

Toxic femininity/masculinity, if it exists, should never be encouraged.

It may include poor logic in the masculine that will lead to injury or other consequences of poor decisions, and in the feminine may include the proclivity to ignore logic completely and only listen to ethos, it may be why feminism is the way it is, and why they hate men, no amount of logos will change the decision to stand by emotional arguments, no matter how false or sexist they are.

Title	Targeted Toxic Resilience
Author	Lazy_Doughnut_5570
Upvotes	18
Comments	11
Date	July 4, 2025 3:46 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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