This is the problem created by those 'no violence against women' posters...

Numericaly7 · 2015-12-28T13:17:11+00:00

Lol, they literally walk around with laser swords, how are they going to avoid violence?

Greg_W_Allan · 2015-12-28T13:47:23+00:00

Meanwhile...

http://variety.com/2015/film/in-contention/hateful-eight-misogyny-quentin-tarantino-harvey-weinstein-1201667868

This stupidity limits the roles available to women in films. I'm sure the very same protagonists complain about that too.

secv808 · 2015-12-28T21:31:32+00:00

This post gives too much attention to a doofus ignore them.

McFeely_Smackup · 2015-12-28T21:46:23+00:00

It's "extremely upsetting" to be asked your opinion?

"Thinking is hard"...is that the message she's putting out there?

throwthetrash15 · 2015-12-28T10:40:00+00:00

Eh, this is kinda silly. It's her work, she can do what she wants with it and you don't have to read it.

Landjo · 2015-12-28T22:00:31+00:00

Fascinating. I used to think that the assumption that men oppress women through patriarchy was what poisoned feminism, a movement with laudable intentions that I fully agree with in theory. It is the oppressed status of women that makes them able to ignore men's problems, justify or even celebrate female violence, and in fact defend rather than oppose gender roles.

But that is perhaps changing. The focus is more on the notion that the personal is political, that subjective perception should assume an arbitrating role. Whereas ten year's ago, she might have said that structural inequalities justify specific restrictions against killing her female character, now the only analysis necessary is that it upsets her.

Which is, of course, the same approach that made women's potential offense the guiding principle for strict societal rules of engagement in, say, Victorian high society. A notion firmly ensconced in our gender roles, formed during the 99% of human history where failing to protect women and children above all was not only a lofty principle, but probably subject to natural selection: any tribe failing to do so would - try some simple arithmetic - face swift extinction in a society with an average life span of 35 and no medical care to speak of.

Which is why I think that the men's rights movement should claim the championship of an effort to remove the constraints of gender roles. There should be no contradiction between recognising men's contributions, encouraging men and women to try out non-traditional roles, and stopping letting gender influence whom we protect and encourage. If anything systemic is holding women back, it is exactly the victim gender role feminism is fighting so hard to retain: perhaps in the innocuous shape of a childhood full of excessive pity, compassion, and positive messaging, and very few reprimands; then entering professional life convinced systemic sexism is everywhere and interpreting any adversity from that perspective. Benevolence will serve them well in the first parts of their career, but when their company has to trust them to represent the company, guide staff, carry the responsibility for hundreds of millions of dollars, and travel the world, all else being equal, her male colleague may simply be the safer option.

Title	This is the problem created by those 'no violence against women' posters...
Author	brinaper
Upvotes	50
Comments	14
Date	December 28, 2015 9:29 AM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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