There's something I don't quite understand. I'm personally avoiding relationships like the plague for the last few years because they're simply a bad deal. I'm 45 and not really into anyone older than let's say 35 (unless they're very well kept).

Unless I make dating my full time job, or totally lower my standards, I can't really get laid at the moment, but it's because my standards are high and I don't pretend to want something serious, and I'm open about me not wanting children.

The moment I'll lower my standards, or start pretending I'm looking for something "serious", I'll probably be able to get laid within hours / days.

I really don't see myself as an Incel, but as an Vocel, a Voluntary Celibate, and I'm sure there are a TON of others like me out there.

Aren't many of you who don't get laid are in a similar situation? How many are actual Incels vs. guys who just went their own way, or refuse to lower standards, or pretend to be looking for something serious when they don't?