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What are your thoughts on this thread?

Wild_Aioli

October 13, 2020
47 upvotes
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https://np.reddit.com/r/DebunkThis/comments/j68ap9/please_debunk_this/
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Title What are your thoughts on this thread?
Author

Wild_Aioli

Upvotes 47
Comments 8
Date October 13, 2020 5:48 PM UTC
(5 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/jaihjt/what_are_your_thoughts_on_this_thread/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/what-are-your-thoughts-on-this-thread.1194464
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Comments

[–]Bojack35 24 points25 points26 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It basically sums up how stupid society has become that we can't appreciate nuance anymore.

Yes there are areas where men face discrimination/ statistically are worse off.

Yes there are areas where women face discrimination/ statistically are worse off.

We dont have to view it as black and white one gender has it better the other has it worse. We dont need a 'goodie' and a 'baddie'. The issues are complex and often interrelated. Any truly meaningful attempt at change has to recognise that. But it goes over peoples heads so they over simplify until they feel like they understand.

[–]TerminusStop 18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Victim blaming. Even when they recognize a problem men have, its their fault.

[–]excess_inquisitivity 11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Looks like a slapfight to me. The poster's smugness was met with samx3i's debunking of the debunking request, and all REEEE broke loose.

[–]DignifiedAlpaca 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I didn't read the whole thing, but in what I did read, it looked like most of their arguments were some variant of "yes, that is true, but it doesn't really count for anything because ..." which is just a way of trying to skirt around the fact that they are wrong.

I especially liked how the one person said that there is an all-powerful patriarchy and that this can be proven, but Reddit is not the proper place to put forth the evidence for it. In order words, they are dodging the need to put forth evidence to back up their claims.

At the end of the day, while I know that some people really are that stupid, I would imagine that the majority of them know that they are wrong, but just don't care. I think they are being purely tribalistic. They are going to support their "side" of this argument regardless of what the facts say. Arguing with them is like arguing with a brick wall.

[–]Aarya1324 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The patriarchy is literally a conspiracy theory and arguements can be made that even if it exists, women are not oppressed because of it.

[–]AleksandrNevsky 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nothing at all surprising.

Looks like run of the mill posturing, victim-blaming, and sound bite myths. I don't really expect a lot more from general reddit threads on topics like this.

It's not in vogue to support "privileged" victims.

[–]TheStumblingWolf 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Even if the stats are correct, I'd be wary of sharing anything to do with PragerU. Some of their work is offensive to anyone with common sense, and other work is pretty good.

[–]FSCMC1 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

It’s prager-u, don’t trust how they present information even if the info is true

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