What’s Wrong with Feminism?

Ody_ssey · 2019-10-19T17:36:40+00:00

I’m against the lack of help that rape victims recieve from law enforcement,

I don't know which country you are talking about but in US, Canada, UK, Spain snd Australia, when a woman files a false rape accusation, the accused is immediately arrested without evidence and then investigation starts. Until the accused is released, his face and identity are all around in media and he is fired from his workplace.

I am against the pay gap (even if isnt 77/100, it’s actually 93/100 when you factor in different jobs, experience, and hours worked),

If you consider all the factors like number of hours worked, experience from previous company, experience in the current company, designation in previous company, designation in current company, overtime, highest earned qualification and number of unused leaves last year and then you compare men and women, in this case women earn 6 centa more than men for every dollar. You are ignoring so many factors.

It seems like you guys are against feminism, but why?

Feminism is about man hating propaganda. They don't want gender equality, they want gender dominance. In developed countries, women already have more than equal rights and men are being compromised for that. But feminists still won't more privileges without wanting associate responsibilities.

That's why I despise feminism because they feed you with wrong data.

Feminists drive their insanity and men are stupid enough to make this enough.

apeironman · 2019-10-19T18:01:54+00:00

I challenge you to name a single feminist organization that has actually addressed a single issue that men face.

When Florida was going to implement a default shared parenting plan in family court, with data to back it up as better for children and 70% of the electorate behind it, the governor vetoed it under pressure from NOW and the family law lobby.

Mary P. Koss, along with the Ms. Foundation and our own government, has been instrumental in keeping resources from male victims of rape and sexual assault by not allowing 'forced to envelope' under the definition of rape, and continues to push the debunked '1 in 5' statistic to this day. She also helped author the VAWA, which continues to provide funding and help to female victims only.

Or how about the ACA, which has funding for well-check visits and cancer screenings...for women only. Men die at an earlier age across the board, and we can't even get the same funds as the women.

And where are the garden variety feminists? Complaining about manspreading, mansplaining, and office a/c settings.

Maybe we are tired of hearing variations of "kill all men" from various prominent feminists such as Valerie Solanis (with her SCUM manifesto), Julie Bindel, and Suzanna Danuta Walters (who still has a job after her seminal opus "Why Can't We Hate Men?" printed in the WaPost op-ed).

Maybe we are fed up with feminists continued claim that they are oppressed and we men are oppressing them, when if you just open your eyes you will see the opposite is true.

RoryTate · 2019-10-19T18:06:42+00:00

Susan B Anthony didn’t invent circumsicion.

That's not an argument that holds any water, any more than causing an accident and saying you didn't invent the car therefore you are not responsible would hold up in a court of law. We need to focus on what's happening right now, and currently we have many examples of feminists in government, academia, law, medicine, etc, who support circumcision. For example, Victoria Atkins, Minister for Women in the UK, refused to speak in response to a question from a fellow MP regarding why MGM was still legal. Instead, she reluctantly responded six weeks later in a terse letter that stated:

The UK is a world leader on religious freedom and that means allowing male circumcision under religious rules.

As a result, the UK still considers MGM to be a completely ethical practice, and will not amend its longstanding law banning FGM to include all children equally.

Most feminists – even those opposing male circumcision – state vehemently that MGM and FGM should never be compared in any way. They even attack anyone who uses the term "genital mutilation" for anything outside of female cutting, because in their minds what happens to women is always worse, and men cannot be equal victims even when they are defenseless infants.

Equality when it benefits women, but not when it benefits men.

Most feminists I’ve met are against the male-only draft.

And yet the draft still exists in one form or another in every developed nation of the world, either written or unwritten, and no feminist or feminist organization has ever done anything to change that. It's a clear pattern that when feminists say they oppose something that hurts men, that thing somehow never ever seems to get resolved, even when a simple law (like bans against male circumcision or the draft) would immediately solve it. Wow, would you look at all of these harmful things like family/divorce court, alimony, unequal sentencing, etc, that disadvantage men but are still chugging along without even missing a beat? This opposition is just complete incompetence at best or dishonest platitudes at worst. Either way, it doesn't deserve our support.

So the reason that we oppose feminism is that it actively opposes us. In the few cases where it doesn't hate men, it's useless and nothing but empty air. It's easy to just say you are for these positions, and type a few words out into the virtual world. Yet when feminists get in positions of power to make real world changes, they create more laws that target men, close down women's prisons, oppose men's DV and homeless shelters, remove funding for anything that helps men and redirect it to women, and more. So we've learned by experience never to trust anything that feminism claims to offer men.

FormedBoredom · 2019-10-19T18:13:21+00:00

They’re supposedly fighting for equality, which they’ve had for quite some time. So now they fight for superiority, which they also already have. So then they fight for the reduction of men’s rights.

Jay_the_General · 2019-10-19T17:09:49+00:00

They fight for female privilege, not equality. If you bring this up, they mention that they work with r/menslib, but that sub is a sexist joke. There was actually a recent post about that. If you look at the issues on this sub, a lot a feminists support them.

red_philosopher · 2019-10-20T02:12:56+00:00

Having 30% of my dick's nerve endings cut off because of MGM and having feminist groups fight against laws banning MGM is enough of a reason to "hate" the movement.

RealBiggly · 2019-10-19T17:16:57+00:00

Time and time and time again feminists have fought hard AGAINST equality.

" Susan B Anthony didn’t invent circumsicion."

What kind of straw-whore is that? Show me any feminist organisation in America that's fighting to have male genital mutilation banned, like it has been for females for decades?

"feminism didn’t cause any of them"

Snortph! What?

lol.

Lethn · 2019-10-19T18:01:23+00:00

Don't think I haven't noticed how you've carefully avoided the way feminists will excuse, downplay and attack men over domestic violence, rape, paedophilia and false accusations when women are committing the crime against men. Even women who speak out against this sort of thing as everybody should they are viciously attacked by feminists who want to pretend that men can't be victims of violence from women.

If you don't acknowledge any of these issues and speak about them freely you can't call yourself an equality activist, nevermind an MRA and yes, feminists frequently defend violent women who commit these crimes.

Lonelyandsad04 · 2019-10-19T18:48:34+00:00

I have a good reason imo My mom is/was a nazi feminiest from ago 8/12 I was a feminest then I was questioning until like a mounth or so ago I now know that a lot of feminest are aginest men if you search r / men in reddit the second one to come up is a group of hateful feminest. I had someone help me a few days ago and I think im a egalitarianism which belives in quality which is what I want for society.

Nighils013 · 2019-10-20T01:04:09+00:00

You should watch "Feminism and the Disposable Male" by Karen Straughan which sums alot. And maybe Ava Brighton videos.

Title	What’s Wrong with Feminism?
Author	SevenBall
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Date	October 19, 2019 4:59 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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