Whoopi is defending men again. A while back she argued for a man's right to defend himself, and now this "Cosby Rape Victim Strikes Back At The View Host"

pnw_diver · 2015-07-12T00:22:04+00:00

Whoopi ain't the end of the world. Time and experience have probably moderated her.

I don't like that the CNN TV show allowed Bernard to basically convict Cosby on TV, when there was never even an arrest.

For my part, I think Cosby is probably a douchebag rapist, and it's time him for him to get his just desserts.

However, when I see or hear Whoopi Goldberg next, I'll try to remember that she grounds herself in basic justice principles. That is a valuable thing and should be respected.

jamminnummeruno · 2015-07-11T17:05:39+00:00

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/whoopi-defends-stephen-a-smith-if-you-hit-a-man-dont-be-surprised-if-he-hits-back/

Sasha_ · 2015-07-11T22:43:38+00:00

Rushing to judgement on a black male accused of being a rapist?

Well, it's just as well there's no record of THAT having a dark history in the USA...

evil-doer · 2015-07-12T02:54:14+00:00

What I dont get is... 40 women.. FORTY.. and not a single one went to the police? Theyll go on TV and talk about how it was the most horrible thing in their life, now, but at the time it wasnt even enough to go to the police?

I can understand theres a percentage of women who dont report rape, but a drugging and rape, and 100% of 40 of them?? Thats mind boggling.

People keep saying that as more women step forward, the more guilty he looks, but I think its the opposite. The more that come forward the odds of it being true become less likely, at least less likely that he raped every one of them, anyways.

govt_took_my_baby · 2015-07-12T00:09:17+00:00

Eurgh, must we link to TYT? Fuck Cenk and the lot of them

reg8392748 · 2015-07-11T21:21:14+00:00

I happened to see her on some show, she made some good points.

outtsider · 2015-07-12T01:42:58+00:00

Post a link to the actual video not all this Turkish whatever commentary

Wargame4life · 2015-07-12T10:53:10+00:00

Jesus christ the young turks are absolute fucking morons.

"40 people wouldn't make it up" , if he was talking about some unknown person he would have a point, but how many people know who bill cosby is around the globe and how many of those people have mental health issues etc.

Its fucking ridiculous they are that dumb they cant see this, 40 people accusing YOU of rape is in different leagues to 40 people accusing someone major famous of rape.

ARedthorn · 2015-07-12T09:11:21+00:00

I love the other Whoopi videos, and generally dislike TYTs... But on this one...

This is one we're better off not waving around banner-like.

Because as much as I hate to say it, TYT make decent points on this one, especially re: statute of limitations. The statute of limitations exists for a reason, but not to prove or even assume innocence- merely to keep courts from getting too cluttered with cases that clearly didn't matter enough to pursue in a timely way... And also give some acknowledgement to the idea that people change, and the man who once did something awful is not the man being accused well down the line.

As for the specific Cosby case, I was on the fence, and in the spirit of the law, therefore presuming innocence right up until the court records got released.

Even so, some of those women may well be band-wagoning... But there's sufficient proof to convince a jury at this point... But for the statute of limitations.

So... Fine. I'm not about to burn any sweaters or say the Cosby Show should never be aired again- censorship isn't cool- but I think it's time we let him sink or swim. He's no longer one of our issues. It's very doubtful that he's falsely accused, he's not a victim of any kind (including of bias, as he's likely the least disadvantaged black man of his era)... Just... No.

We complain about NAFALT, because feminists are really bad about policing their own until it's too late, and do a shit job of ret-conning that shit. We pride ourselves on doing a better job, shutting down the assholes who would hijack our purpose/cause/whatever.

I think this is one of those cases. If we want our issues to be taken seriously, we can't call this one ours.

Dead_Dove13 · 2015-07-12T15:54:00+00:00

40? that means nothing. Groups or people come forward and clam stupid shit all the time that gets the attention of the media. For example, religion and alein abduction. But then again they still make a good case.

I just realized that i dont give a fuck about bill or any of this shit.

dangerousopinions · 2015-07-12T07:53:08+00:00

I'm calling BS on that afro.

riddleywlkr · 2015-07-12T04:52:52+00:00

RAINN makes the claim that 32 of 100 rapes are reported to the police. This implies that the chance of 40 rapes going unreported is 0.68⁴⁰ = 2e-7 or about 1 in 5 million. Personally, I think that the 'unreported rate' is typically overblown, but the clear collary to the notion of even this level of reporting is that the likelihood of 40 non-reporters is very, very low. People keep using the 'omg, 40 women, he must be guilty' line of reasoning, but 40 non-reporters does not mean what they think it means.

Likelihood of being struck by lightening ->. 1:3000
Likelihood of being killed by a shark -> 1:3.7 million
Likelihood of 0 of 40 women, raped by Cosby, with no reports -> 1:5 million, using rainn's estimates for non-reporting

Almost twice as likely that Cosby was killed by a shark. Lucky man? Not a lucky man...?

Title	Whoopi is defending men again. A while back she argued for a man's right to defend himself, and now this "Cosby Rape Victim Strikes Back At The View Host"
Author	jamminnummeruno
Upvotes	49
Comments	25
Date	July 11, 2015 5:04 PM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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