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Why does the entry for "Regressive Left" on knowyourmeme.com say that it's "used by the far-left to describe centrists"? I'm pretty sure that's backwards.

zktr

February 28, 2016
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Title Why does the entry for "Regressive Left" on knowyourmeme.com say that it's "used by the far-left to describe centrists"? I'm pretty sure that's backwards.
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zktr

Upvotes 8
Comments 28
Date February 28, 2016 10:34 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/486f4y/why_does_the_entry_for_regressive_left_on/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/why-does-the-entry-for-regressive-left-on.955051
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Comments

[–]Lethn 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It seems someone is writing propaganda to make it seem like it's actually people like Dave Rubin who are the 'far left' and they are the centrists.

Which is fucking hilarious.

[–]TurbulentThinking3 points 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Someone let the feminists onto KnowYourMeme :(

[–]ThePigmanAgain 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

What the fuck is a far left liberal????

[–]zktr -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Someone on the far-left is, by definition, a liberal. Even though lately they've been abandoning classical liberal ideas.

[–]ThePigmanAgain 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Someone on the far-left is, by definition, a liberal.

LOL

[–]ee4m 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Classical liberal ideals are right wing - its libertarian.

Free trade, no restrictions on borders, no workers rights etc.

The left advocates workers protections.

[–]zktr 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Actually, Libertarianism is separate from left-right:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BaDJLbW_zPs/SRevLtyzt3I/AAAAAAAAAFI/xBkkL9pvxak/s1600/old%2Bnolan%2Bchart%2Bwhite.png

[–]ee4m 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah ok.

[–]Klytemaestra 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

Everything with the left is about obfuscation. They cannot tell the truth to save their own lives. Recently the left has been trying to rewrite history and confuse everybody. This is just one example of their revisionism.

[–]ThePigmanAgain 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

Everything you wrote is just as correct about the right as it is about the left.

[–]zktr 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn't say that exactly - the right does other underhanded and stupid things, but not "rewriting history" or "intentionally hiding the truth".

[–]ThePigmanAgain 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

You must be joking.

[–]Ricwulf 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Whilst I don't like defending the Right that much, from what I understand they never had anything like The JournoList.

The Right can be pretty scummy and I don't argue that at times they try to revise history. But the Left has a history of sneaky shit to influence the public.

[–]ThePigmanAgain 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

But the Left has a history of sneaky shit to influence the public.

As opposed to the rampant honesty surrounding the rush to war in Iraq. And the "benefits" of neo-liberalism. And the claim that Obama is a socialist!

Both sides lie like dogs, to claim otherwise is naive at best, disingenuous at worst.

[–]Ricwulf 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I never claimed that the Right doesn't lie. The world isn't black and white. I was saying that the Left has lied more often and been a lot more sneaky about it.

[–]ThePigmanAgain 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't see how you can quantify such a thing. Frankly, i have seen at least as many lies from the Right as from the Left. But like i said, it is hard to quantify such things unless you have a huge and non-partisan organization checking everything these cunts say.

[–]Ricwulf 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's a fair point. Besides, both of us admit that it is based on what we have seen. Both of us have most likely missed things that the other may have noticed, so you're right about needing a third party to look into it that doesn't have a bias on the topic, which would be a pretty hard feat to find a group to accomplish.

I'm willing to accept and agree that either one of us could be entirely wrong (and it's probably me), as the views we stated are based on our perception. I mean, I know I have a boas against the left and when they're caught lying I'm more aware of it, but when the Right do something similar, I'm jaded to it just shrug it off as nothing new (and I'm not right wing for the record, but rather sick of The Left as a group (not an ideology) being idiots).

[–]Lethn 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

Sorry, but unfortunately it's true, the right are far more honest when it comes to their shit than the left, even though they have stuff like Fox News and so on the left wing media on the other hand genuinely try to act as if they're somehow balanced and sane compared to everyone else.

I find I tend to have far better conversations with people on the right even if I don't agree with them than many people who proudly claim to be left wing for this reason because a lot of people on the left genuinely seem to think they're intellectually superior to everyone else.

It's an incredibly arrogant way to behave towards other people.

[–]ThePigmanAgain 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

What are you, zktr's other account?

[–]zktr 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Haha, no, and I'm not telling you what my other account is. I don't use it on this subreddit.

[–]Lethn 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

gasp Someone disagrees with me?! They must be evil right wing neo-nazi's trolling with multiple accounts! Hurr DURR! Foam at the mouth everybody!

Actually, I'm a centre or centre-right Anarchist who's fed up of being labelled and attacked constantly because I don't automatically agree with everything morons say on either side of the debate.

[–]ThePigmanAgain 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Go away.

[–]besaolli 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Huh, Huh, whaaaaat??? You surely remember this.

Both sides are constantly trying to trick the populous into believing they have all of the answers. And both sides will say ANYTHING to make us believe them.

[–]zktr 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Vaguely. I guess I meant "on a large/significant scale" - this was just a minor thing. All politicians lie, and all political devotees stretch the truth. But the sheer scale and collusion of hiding the truth that the left of the 2010's is guilty of is far unmatched by the right.

[–]besaolli 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No offense, but I disagree.

[–]zktr 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well okay then.

[–]ee4m 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

5 - Old ultraliberal ideas are presented as modern and progressive.

Opening up borders to allow cheap labour in for example is depicted as leftist and progressive, when in reality its about free markets and wage suppression for the benefit of corporations.

http://www.britannica.com/event/antiglobalization

[–]Ricwulf -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's horseshoe theory in action. The further away from the politcal sides you get, the closer they actually are.

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