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[–]KrispyMcSockingtonPillar of the community2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well...I like to think of it as pointing out how peoples' poor choices can affect society. A slut is great for quick, easy sex. But if there are too many sluts, there aren't enough committed women around who would be great moms and wives. Slutty girls do not make for good long term relationship material, so when a slut complains about being shamed, it's really only to escape responsibility for her actions. This can include unfaithfulness, spreading diseases, wrecking relationships and even getting a bad reputation.
I don't think the issue with slut shaming would be as big if they didn't also demand to be considered for LTRs. I mean, I can understand why women would not like sluts - they're stealing the attention of a lot of men, cheapening sex in the process, while non slutty women are trying to be better people to attract Mr Right. Then Slutty McSlut comes along after enveloping 100 cocks during college and wants the same type of relationship as a woman who has put a lot of effort into her relationship, i.e. the slut wants to settle down with a husband after years of one night stands, the occasional gang bang, pregnancy scares and abortions. Any half decent woman would be angry.
Sluts also tend to want to settle down when the attention of men wanes, so it's almost a convenient coincidence that she's "matured" or ready for something serious. Given the choice, I am sure slutty girls would let the party continue. Settling down with a provider is probably not her first choice but really, it's not a bad deal: spend your good years in a hedonistic fashion then land on a soft cushion when a thirsty provider comes along. Women who actually care about their relationships would feel like she's cheating somewhat (Hey, maybe she actually is. She is a slut after all!)
Men don't mind sluts, but they don't respect them. Anyone with that lack of impulse control is not going to be respected by anyone. Women who complain about being slut shamed really want to have their cake and eat it too. Nevermind the risks to a relationship when someone marries her. The relationship will most likely not last. So actually, there is nothing wrong with slut shaming. She is making a (poor) choice and if she doesn't like the consequences, she needs to make better ones. She cannot change society's view on things like this, not easily anyway. You cannot blame society when you suffer for your poor choices. Slut shaming might be a choice, but so is being a slut.
[–]Archwinger1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Arguably, nothing. The same rights that allow people to be sluts, gay, liberal, atheist, or the opposite of any of these are also the rights that allow others to have and express negative opinions about any of it. Free speech cuts both ways.
But in the blue pill universe, apparently, if you have a right to do something, that also means it's totally wrong for someone to judge you for it or for there to be social consequences. Because you were within your rights. And they genuinely believe that nobody should ever face a single negative thought for something they have a right to do. - Unless you disagree with them. Regressive people who have wrong and stupid opinions should be shamed. In fact, their dangerous opinions should be outlawed.
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[–]ShadowMonarch212 1 points1 points1 points 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Slut-shaming is rude. LPT for red pill guys: if you wouldn't tolerate something being done to your daughter, don't do it to other women.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
I don't know any guys that want their daughters to be sluts?
That's not the point. Suppose you have a 15-year-old virgin daughter who rejected some boy, and that boy is now calling her a million different synonyms for "harlot". Surely you'd take offense at his behaviour? Maybe even punch him in the face? Visualize that for a minute, and then reverse the roles: now you're the boy, and some other dude is watching you harass his little girl. You think he won't punch your lights out?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
You're confusing shaming actual sluts with using "slut" as a synonym for bitch.
Fine, suppose your daughter, whom you love very much, is instead a rampant sex addict. She's very insecure about her addiction, and this dickhead with his million sexual slurs has reduced her to tears. Are you honestly telling me that you'd be okay with all of this?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
She's insecure about her addiction? LOL. First that's a medical condition and I already stated the difference between conditions and free choice. Second, Here's An equivalently ridiculous scenario.... My daughter the Neo-nazi gets called names and is reduced to tears. Should I crusade to ban Neo-nazi shaming?
You haven't answered my question. If some guy called your daughter a slut on account of her promiscuity, would you be okay with that?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I wouldn't be okay with my daughter being a slut. The same way I wouldn't be okay with her being a stripper or a whore or a drug addict. I wouldn't be okay with anyone causing pain to her in any way, but that doesn't really mean anything does it? If my daughter was a nazi and someone made remarks about it that brought her to tears I wouldn't be okay with it either. Does that mean we Shouldnt shame nazis?
[–]DaphneDKKing of LBFM-1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Same as nerd shaming, autist shaming, etc. Why do you need to voice your disagreements in public?
Also: sluts are great if you want quick sex.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link
Shaming behaviour is different than shaming inherent traits.
We shame racists, bigots, and nationalists. Why do we need to voice our disagreement? Women shame betas all the time.
We don't shame handicapped and disabled. So it's not the same as autist shaming.
[–]BiggerDthanYouBluetopia0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We shame racists, bigots and nationalists because they harm other people. Just like slut shamers hurt others.
But sluts don't harm anyone. Maybe a bit because you think they are icky and because you feel left out if they sleep with hot guys. But just like I wouldn't shame people for deciding to get a haircut I don't like, having hobbies I don't like or eating things I don't like I don't shame people for making decisions I wouldn't make as long as no one gets hurt.
And all the reasons you can think of why being a slut is wrong exist solely due to slut shaming. In a sexually liberated environment they don't become damaged goods, because they don't get hated on and excluded for enjoying sex. In a sexually liberated environment there aren't as many STDs because people are smart instead of thinking that telling kids not to sleep around is enough. They know about the dangers and use condoms and get tested before sleeping with a new partner. They don't get burned out and can't bond anymore, because they don't sleep with people in the hope that they commit, but simply because they can.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We shame them for the harm they can do to others. We essentially shame them because they do it first.
How are women who sleep around harming or shaming anyone?
[–]DaphneDKKing of LBFM0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
And you think beta shaming is good or bad?
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
It's good. Teaches men how to stop being beta bitches. Hell, all of red pill is beta shaming.
[–]BiggerDthanYouBluetopia0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
And why is slut shaming good?
https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/4kt7pa/whats_wrong_with_slut_shaming/d3hlo5d
[–]DaphneDKKing of LBFM-1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
ok, well if you think sluts are bad and you believe shaming is a good method to reduce the population of sluts, then I guess slut shaming is a good thing then.
I agree that slut shaming is actually an effective method to reduce sluttiness. If widely done. Same with fat shaming. But I think sluts are good. As long as the slut population is kept at a resonable level of course. I subscribe to the madonna-whore complex. Sluts for sex, madonnas for wives.
[–]OfSpock0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
One of the biggest downsides of being a slut would be the type of people you accidentally have sex with.
[–]betterdeadthanbetaHeartless cynical bastard-1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It makes it harder for me to fuck sluts.
I think the pros outweigh the cons though.
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