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Because it's a weird thing to focus on, and not even that accurate. Christianity isn't a small religion were all Christians agree on everything. Catholics, Arians, Orthodox etc etc. The vikings fought many groups while allying with others. Like I said, they joined with Christians in the Byzantine empire to fight Muslims.

And they didn't only fight white people, they fought Moors in Andalusia, Turks in Anatolia, Saracens in the Middle East and maybe even natives in North America. They lived among other white people, ofcourse most of the people they fought with were white people.

But a white nationalist can still take them as their symbol. I'm Arab/North African and most of our heroes fought us at one point or another. Hannibal, early Caliphs, Yusuf ibn Tashfin, Massinisa and Abdelkader al Djazair are all among heroes and symbols of North Africa.

Yet Massinisa fought only North Africans, Caliphs forced Arab culture on us and Yusuf ibn Tashfin ended many North African dynasties through war.

I don't see how it makes sense that just because your people once fought someone, this person is now somehow the eternel enemy of your people.

Ofcourse most enemies of vikings were white. Most enemies of African kingdoms were other Africans, most enemies of East Asian heroes were other East Asians etc etc.

And you also emphasized the Christian part saying "Not just white people but Christian white people".

Most enemies of ISIS are other Muslims, because most people they live around are Muslims. It only makes sense. Yet some Muslims support ISIS. Same thing. "They aren't just fighting Middle Easterners but Muslim Middle Easterners"

This is just about the success of the vikings and then taking them as symbol of their people. Success has no bias. Whoever they fight, whoever they defeat, if they're successful then they're successful.

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I literally only said they fought Christians. And they did

You mean that they only fought Christians? Because that's not true....

The Varangian guard was an entire army of Vikings employed by the Byzantine emperor to fight Turks....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varangian_Guard

Literally from that page:

Immigrants from Sweden, Denmark, Norway and Iceland kept a predominantly Norse cast to the organization until the late 11th century. According to the late Swedish historian Alf Henriksson in his book Svensk Historia (History of Sweden), the Scandinavian Varangian guardsmen were recognized by long hair, a red ruby set in the left ear and ornamented dragons sewn on their chainmail shirts. In these years, Scandinavian men left to enlist in the Byzantine Varangian Guard in such numbers that a medieval Swedish law from Västergötland declared no one could inherit while staying in "Greece"—the then Scandinavian term for the Byzantine Empire—to stop the emigration,[5] especially as two other European courts simultaneously also recruited Scandinavians:[6] Kievan Rus' c. 980–1060 and London 1018–1066 (the Þingalið).

In other words, the number of Vikings that joined the Varangians was so large that the Scandinavian kingdoms had to invent laws to prevent emigration.

And you do realise that Normans were vikings aswel?

I mean, the early kings of England were all Normans. And they all fought Muslims.

Sicily and Jerusalem were ruled over by Normans, Vikings.

Were did you get the idea that Vikings only fought Christians?

There have been many attempted invasions of Iberia done by Vikings:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikings_in_Galicia

And Viking expansion not only reached North America, but also many parts of the Mediteranean:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Viking_Expansion.svg/1280px-Viking_Expansion.svg.png

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3a/WikingerKarte.jpg

Again, Normans were vikings aswel, and they played a central part of the early Crusades. King Richard I Lionheart of England was also a Norman, he was a descendant of William the conqueror.

And above all, there have been entire Crusades by Scandinavian vikings against non-Christians.

Collectively known as the Northern Crusades:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Crusades

Sweden fought many wars against non-Christian tribes such as the Karelians and Livonians.

Or the Livonian Crusade:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livonian_Crusade

Or this:

The well-known Harald Hardrada would also serve the Byzantine emperor in Palestine as well as raiding North Africa, the Middle East as far east as Armenia, and the island of Sicily in the 11th century, as recounted in his saga in Snorri Sturluson's Heimskringla.[72]

Evidence for Norse ventures into Arabia and Central Asia can be found in runestones erected in Scandinavia by the relatives of fallen Viking adventurers. Several of these refer to men who died in "Serkland" (Arabia)[73]

Meanwhile, in the Eastern Mediterranean the Norse (referred to as Rus') were viewed more as "merchant-warriors" whose were primarily associated with trade and business.[67] In particular, Arab scholars such as Ibn-Fadlan recount Norse trade expeditions to Baghdad, a major center of the Islamic world.[67] Indeed, one of the only detailed accounts of a Viking burial come from Ibn-Fadlan's account.[74] At times this trading relationship would break down into violence – Rus' armadas raided in the Caspian on at least three occasions, in 910, 912 and 943

Not only were there wars between Middle Easterners and Vikings, Vikings were literally known for their trade. They weren't a warmongering people.

The reason for the Viking age is that it's a retaliation after European kingdoms such as Charlemagne forcibly Christianize Nordic tribes.

Again, I don't get were you get the idea that they only fought Christians...

said, "They fought white Christians." If one ship of Vikings clashed steel with 2 white Christians in the entirety of history, then what I said was correct.

Oh ok then you're just overblowing and misleading.

I didn't say "only, mostly, a lot"

No you just emphasized "Christian" as if it matters. But you're right. A small minority of people they fought were White and Christian.

Most were either Christian, White or neither.

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They're insecure dicks who want to be recognized by someone other than their mothers, and only feel powerful when putting down others.

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Then tell me why you feel the need to put down those who have a different skin color than you

I don't.

when skin color only changes the way someone looks, and nothing else

If I spend a lot of time in the sun I get tanned and that alters my appearance but that isn't the purpose of tanning and that doesn't change my race. Surely you know the purpose of increased melanin in the skin isn't purely for a visual display? It's not like the sun has eyes and a brain and thinks to itself "Oh look this human has a visually darker skin so I won't burn him as much because of the way he looks". It's just adaptation. If you spend a lot of time in the sun your skin color will alter because it will adapt to protect itself from the sun's rays. The way it appears visually to other humans or other creatures with eyes is just a by-product. So no, skin color doesn't only change the way someone looks, and nothing else, the color of a person's skin actually affects how the person's body functions. Another example is that the lighter a person's skin the easier it is for them to absorb/synthesize Vitamn D from the sun in darker, colder and more northern climates hence why Europeans are "white" because they have evolved over thousands of years to adapt to their environment and be as efficient as possible.

I think you're also confusing skin color with race. Have you ever seen African albinos? They are born with white skin and blonde hair but it doesn't change their race, they are still Africans.

http://neudi1fr9mh4edwqa2ori151.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/black+albino-384x640.jpg

Are you really going to claim that you cannot tell the difference between these people and European people (or for that matter Asian people) just because they have white skin? Is skin color the only thing that's identifiable of their appearance?

and that is scientifically proven.

What is? It's scientifically proven that a person's skin color is purely a cosmetic appearance thing?

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Pretty sure the image says 'stand up for your race'.

Yes it does.

That does come across as white supremacism.

No it doesn't. Only a very stupid person would think that. So a black person that says "stand up for your race" when addressing other black people is a white supremacist? How does standing up for yourself and your race mean that your race is supreme or better than any other race?

Why should someone stand up for their race when theirs nothing to stand against?

We are standing up against the destruction of our race. I think that's a valid reason. When you are being attacked it's perfectly reasonable to defend yourself. I would expect members of any race to do the same.

Viking believed in respect, yes they were aggressive but they respected people.

"Vikings" weren't a people. Viking is "to go viking" meaning to "go raiding". They were norsemen (northern men) or Scandinavians. Most were just farmers and family men not raiders. Yes they were intelligent and respectful people that had a code of honor. They were aggressive when necessary. They weren't the dirty, bloodthirsty ruthless savage barbarians that fictional media often makes them out to be. Quite a lot of parallels to pro-whites.

I just think everyone should be treated as equals rather than one race believing they're supreme.

Not everybody is equal but sure all races should have equal right to exist, survive, thrive and advocate for their own interests, including "white" (native European) people, in their own homelands. In most cases they do, except for white people. When white people dare to care about themselves and advocate for their own interests conversations just like this one arise where they are accused of being white supremacists even by other whites! It's not about supremacy or one race to rule all others. Is it ok for black people (native Africans) to care about other black people? Is it ok for black people to care about their future, culture, history, languages, foods etc.? Does that mean they are "black supremacists" that hate all other races and think they are superior to all other races and that they should rule over all other races? No it does not.

Love for your own does not equal hatred for others. Caring about your own family's future doesn't mean you believe your family is superior to all others and that your family should rule over other families. You just love them, care about them, want them to know their past and want them to have a good future because they are your family and you love them. They are a part of you and you are a part of them. Families don't always get along, sometimes they fight amongst themselves but they are still family, they are still connected by blood and they still have a shared history.

You said you are white so you are a part of this family whether you acknowledge it or not and whether you acknowledge it or not, peoples of other groups will see you as a member. You are connected to a people that have survived for thousands of years. You are essentially wearing your "team jersey" 24/7 and you might like to think it's just primitive tribalist bullshit and you are above it all, but other races will judge you on race whether you like it or not and when shit goes down they won't think twice about considering you the enemy and beating you down or killing you just because you're white.

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If you don't mind me asking, what is your PC build? I've been looking to build a new one as the Radeon 7950 is starting to struggle at 4k.

But yes this is a totally awesome natsoc sub

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It doesn't make someone PC if they don't want to be blatantly racist and hate entire groups of people

Whoa whoa whoa man... so now Jews are considered "people"?

But regarding "PC" I don't mean politically correct, I saw the higher up guy in pcmasterrace which is a computer-mod subreddit so I asked a question. Is that ok? Am I allowed to ask questions?

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culturally maybe, ethnically? no.

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just cause you call it nationalism doesnt make it not racist and you just being idiots2

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Looking at OP's defense of using this image and also the fact he claims it's in no way suggestive of white supremacy... OP is a fucking moron. He can't comprehend suggestiveness. Stand up to stop the destruction of white people? What kind of idiot doesn't know what the word "minority" means? Tip OP: it ain't white people you dumb shit. Regional evolutionary differences are falling by the wayside because we're entering an advanced l, globally connected world. Eventually, likely over maybe a few hundred years, we won't have the same genetic bottlenecking that created things like different melatonin levels in our skin. Maybe by then we'll be different sizes because of the different gravity wells we live in throughout space. Or we'll be nuked to extinction by leaders that OP votes in.

our existence is based on a series of accidental mutations that were beneficial. OP just needs to see his racist ass out of the gene pool.

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Looking at OP's defense of using this image and also the fact he claims it's in no way suggestive of white supremacy... OP is a fucking moron.

It's "defence". It doesn't promote your imaginary "white supremacy" bogeyman.

He can't comprehend suggestiveness. Stand up to stop the destruction of white people?

Yes. Preserve diversity! It's not "suggestive" in any way, it is completely upfront and clear with a direct, simple, straightforward and easy to understand message that doesn't have any hidden meaning.

What kind of idiot doesn't know what the word "minority" means?

You obviously don't. Also the image never brought up the word "minority" I don't think anyone brought that up except you.

Tip OP: it ain't white people you dumb shit.

White people are the minority. That is just fact. There are literally billions and billions of Africans, Asians, Indians etc. with their own gigantic continents. There's about 7 billion people in the world and there's at most about 1 billion whites.

Maybe by then we'll be different sizes because of the different gravity wells we live in throughout space.

Fantasy. Do you think your space colonization fantasy will ever have any chance of becoming a reality without white people? Do you think Africans and Arab Muslims are going to colonize the universe? What about potential alien species on other planets in your science fiction fantasy future? Would you be for taking over their planets?

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Title	Get Off Your Knees
Author	thealtright
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Comments	150
Date	April 18, 2017 10:06 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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