Marvel, explaining their collapsing sales: "People don't want and don't buy anymore diversity and strong female characters"

Argonometra · 2017-04-05T11:42:18+00:00

And yet, previous generations of readers were perfectly willing to buy comics about Storm, Phoenix, Rogue, X-23, and the other three dozen female X-Men who are actually entertaining characters and not written solely to pander to a vocal minority.

Wonder why?

chronoic · 2017-04-05T14:10:18+00:00

Diversity isnt killing their sales, Force Diversity is. Two different things. They should of Listen to Stan Lee and not the SJW of the world.

http://theralphretort.com/stan-lee-tells-the-sjws-to-make-their-own-characters-they-cry-in-response-6025015/

Turpen_the_savior · 2017-04-05T12:13:15+00:00

People don't like when you try to fix stuff that isn't broken. It just ends up making it worse.

Barsik_The_CaT · 2017-04-05T13:45:41+00:00

Well, they're partially right - diversity IS hurting their sales. But that's no wonder. You can't relaunch a whole universe just to give characters different races and sexual orientations just so it looks more politically correct. The comic books were always about better people, heroes, people you'd want to look up to whether you are 5, 15 or 25. But Marvel just gives us a character that is not interesting, but instead just homosexual/colored/something-something-gender.

Valac_ · 2017-04-05T20:19:32+00:00

I'm honestly sick of forced diversity.

Its literally the same as being racist or sexist you're forcing a character to be something they aren't. Superman is a straight white guy he doesn't need to be a black transsexual gender fluid queer just because it'll make a few loud annoying people "happy".
I'm just done with it as a society we need to move on from thinking about what race people are period. It really doesn't fucking matter if all the super hero's are white. They aren't real people anyway.

samsc2 · 2017-04-05T14:19:23+00:00

No one likes it when you take a previously loved character and decide to just say fuck you to all the fans and replace it with a bullshit pandering diversity requirement concept. Especially thor. That's his name it's not a title holy shit. And that whole cancer thing....really? like really? who decided to come up with the dumbest fucking thing ever like saying that she's "cured" of her chemo therapy every time she becomes vaginathor but it magically leaves her cancer in her, and she's also such a douche that she doesn't want the cancer cured by the countless people that told her they can cure her of it. Like wtf? She just wants sympathy or something? She likes the bald head? wtf?

Strongblackfemale · 2017-04-05T15:56:21+00:00

Yet here he blames retailers, and not the publishers. He's still living in the sjw echo chamber.

shdhfsnbdjdndb · 2017-04-06T12:41:05+00:00

Reminds me of ghostbusters. I was so disgusted to see them try to force things to work. Stan Lee is right. Create new characters! Then everyone wins

Funcuz · 2017-04-05T12:59:07+00:00

I've never in my entire life seen a female reading a comic book. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I'm just saying I've never seen it. Or heard of it. Or heard about it from anybody in the real world.

Now, maybe I'm the odd one out here or I'm not thinking of something I should be but I've always been under the impression that comics were a boy thing. If that's true, why would putting a girl in the Iron Man suit appeal to any boy anywhere? It's not that it's a girl, it's that they'd fear she was going to be the new Iron Man and they'd see never their Iron Man again. Of course they'd reject it. You need new things that appeal to a rather youthful audience. Focusing your marketing on shit that people who don't even read comics think would make it better isn't going to improve sales. The reason is simple, actually: They just want something to complain about. They don't actually care and if you ignore them they will, in fact, go away eventually.

Were I a young boy looking to buy a comic, I wouldn't even understand the idea behind some pink haired lesbian cunt saving the world from all white corporate leadership. Explaining it to me would just bore me and since you can't really do such a thing without explaining yourself first, there's not much point in trying to sell it to me.

DSEthno23 · 2017-04-09T01:41:34+00:00

We totally are though. What we aren't willing to buy are comics about the sane characters except gender or race swapped. I don't want a black female iron man, I want Tony Stark. Make a BRAND NEW kick ass black female character we can get behind. Etc.

CuckFuckMcPuck · 2017-04-05T21:59:36+00:00

Marvel: Feminism and diversity has failed us, too.

tdevore · 2017-04-06T20:11:26+00:00

I don't know if it is so much that people don't want to buy comics with these types of characters as much as what Marvel has done seems extremely forced and PC. Instead of creating new, interesting characters, they are basically making old, beloved characters into something they are not. Iron Man a young black woman. Turning Falcon into Captain America (though I think they've handled that one well). Thor is now a woman. Hulkling and Wiccan being gay (nothing wrong with that except for the fact that they can't stop talking about it). Reconning the 50 year old character Iceman as gay. Creating multi-cultural, female characters who are (in my opinion) extremely weak; I'm looking at you, Ms. America and Ms. Marvel. Making all-women teams. And lastly, making Amadeus Cho the new Hulk over the traditional Bruce Banner. It's all a lot to take over a relatively short period of time (you just messed with Captain America, Thor and Iron Man. Are you kidding?). Combine these seemingly PC changes to the fact that I think everyone is woefully exhausted by the yearly 200 issue long, universe- changing Marvel events (as well as the constant reboots and renumberings) and you get a perfect storm for declining sales. Marvel can add it's racial diversity, it can add its female characters, it can add it's gay characters. No one minds. I think most will applaud it. They just need to do it better. In the end quality is the #1 driver of sales.

PS: Dear Marvel, please stop trying to make Squirrel Girl happen. It's not gonna happen.

Worm-Dog · 2017-04-07T17:21:21+00:00

It's not the fact that there are females, it's the fact that there is an obvious agenda being pushed

DeathArrow007 · 2017-04-05T19:31:26+00:00

Black Mary Jane in the new Spider-Man? No ticket being bought here.

How much outcry would there be if the Black Panther was played by a flighty, gay, white guy?

Knowbody42 · 2017-04-13T22:12:15+00:00

It's not that people won't buy "diverse" characters. Actually, people don't care about the diversity of the characters. They care about the actual stories, and the characters/personality of the people.

If you replace good story telling and good personalities with pushing diversity based on ideology, people aren't going to like it.

CynixCS · 2017-04-05T22:18:42+00:00

Interesting character who happens to be female

Clit in a costume

Yeah I have no clue why they won't sell.

Random_Link_Roulette · 2017-04-09T21:23:34+00:00

people are fine with female heroes and diversity when it is not fucking shoved down our throats...

Look at Ghostblubber, the whole premise of that remake was "we as women can do just as good if not a better job!" "Oh and if you do not like it or rate it badly then you are misogynist pieces of shit! you must like it!" It gets shoe-horned into things that really do not need it and that is what ruins it; Look at the Divergent series, it actually could have maybe been good if it was not for the SJW that shoved their ideologies down our throats with those movies... now only SJWs really like the series...

Just let the story, characters and plot be organic, let it flow and if there is a need for a transgender demi crazy loon.. then write it in; However, if you feel the story is better with all white people, all blacks or all Mexicans.. then make sure the story fits that.. don't build a story and a world for straight white male heroes then force every hero to be black-demi-god-flux-ctan-transtrender shit and write it in that they have to defend who they are every episode... that is the shit we don't wanna see...

PresOrangeBuffoon · 2017-04-06T02:46:11+00:00

Jessica Jones was pretty good.

Mikedealer · 2017-04-06T12:55:47+00:00

personally i didnt like the avengers political stance last election, i wont pay money to support them after that, marvel should consider this as a reason too, something no one wants to talk about.

genericusername26 · 2017-04-06T11:44:39+00:00

Personally I think kamala khan ms marvel is awesome and a great character.

gumbumbles · 2017-04-29T19:31:04+00:00

I know firefighters, men in the army, policemen.. they are all male heroes who risk their lives for us... I can't think of many women that do that.

The thought of a woman charging into a building to save strangers doesn't seem logical to me.

Bravery and women doesn't seem to coexist... and being "brave" because you had unprotected sex and got an abortion IS NOT A HERO.

IMHO

Title	Marvel, explaining their collapsing sales: "People don't want and don't buy anymore diversity and strong female characters"
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Date	April 5, 2017 9:05 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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