How overtly should one lean into wealth and status to attract a high-value woman?

Wonko_the_Sane77 · 2022-10-21T10:01:45+00:00

Game trumps money. Unless your into gold diggers and single moms looking for a walking atm.

TheReplierBRO · 2022-10-21T11:29:20+00:00

In red pill Christianity, I'll say that I'm doing my absolute best for my future wife. That being said, nobody needs to know how much money I have right now. She just needs to know I have drive. Same with physical. She needs to see i dress modestly and clean, and that I'm fit underneath my clothes. Everything else will be revealed to her later

RunawayGrain · 2022-10-21T12:16:20+00:00

If a well-off guy is 5/10 looksmaxxed and needs to bridge that divide to
win an 8/10, how much is too much? (e.g., hinting that you'd pay off her student loans, shopping trips, etc)

That's pretty much the worlds most expensive hooker.

Is it even wrong to enter into a relationship with a Christian woman
that is largely premised around what you can provide for her materially?

Maybe not wrong, but definitely a bad idea.

Is a wealthy Christian man supposed to disguise his true level of wealth until post-engagement via frugal living?

Remember Boaz and Ruth? Boaz wasn't flashing wealth to attract, but it still left signs. He had large fields, lots of men to harvest those fields, and when he told the men not to mess with Ruth they obeyed. In other words he wasn't like some PUA guy that tries to signal worth by flaunting wealth, he was lowkey actually showing why he was wealthy.

x_BryGuy_x · 2022-12-10T19:46:41+00:00

Women are primarily looking for a man that has an outstanding work ethic (not to be confused with being a workaholic) and who is generous (not too generous) with material wealth. This demonstrates to her that you can provide security and also have a good heart.

Deep_Strength · 2022-10-21T18:28:47+00:00

Starting with the bottom questions since it makes more sense.

Is a wealthy Christian man supposed to disguise his true level of wealth until post-engagement via frugal living?

I would suggest this if possible. While I'm not rich or had a 6+ salary or anything like that I did not tell my wife how much I made until we were engaged and I lived frugally. I have since made more than 6+ sometimes, but it wasn't a big deal to her both ways since she was satisfied with the current me not even knowing my income when I was poorer.

Is it even wrong to enter into a relationship with a Christian woman that is largely premised around what you can provide for her materially?

This is a more "is this sin?" question to which the answer is yes and no depending on someone's heart & maturity in the faith.

However, even if it is not sin it comes with its own expectations and consequences. For instance, if you are a big gift giver or trip spender then the level for which you provide for her as a GF is only going to be the minimum when engaged and/or married.

It's VERY hard for women to be content with less (a la the true context of Phil 4 - "I can do all this through him who gives me strength" of which the topic is contentment). That's just womens' reality via hypergamy. We see the same thing if a woman dates men with 6-pack, 6 figs, 6 ft even if they are with different guys. They want all the best attributes of the various men they dated in one man.

If a well-off guy is 5/10 looksmaxxed and needs to bridge that divide to win an 8/10, how much is too much? (e.g., hinting that you'd pay off her student loans, shopping trips, etc)

The big problem with money is that both men and look at money as a transactional affair, and like some of the other commenters said this puts the marriage into the wrong frame. The reason why men and women are supposed to obey Biblical rules and responsibilities is because they want to obey God and because it helps to fulfill the other spouse's needs (as God created those roles and responsibilities to do that).

Money often leads to the "what can you do for me?" selfish attitude and can sabotage things in the long run even if it seems to work out well from the outset.

Obviously, there's nothing wrong with having some nice things which can potentially give girls some clues (some will be more interested) but overtly doing stuff like this I would say is extremely ill advised.

If you are the type of person to be generous and give good gifts and such it MUST be done under the expectation that you expect nothing back (eliminating the transactional mindset for both of you) and it isn't necessarily the norm.

WhereProgressIsMade · 2022-10-24T18:57:36+00:00

Peacocking is one aspect advocated in the secular RP that I found generally unbiblical. Peacocking as in trying to look more wealthy that you really are, like a guy who works as a janitor driving a sports car and wearing designer suits when he goes out looking to meet women.

tooserioustoosilly · 2022-10-22T08:47:51+00:00

First off don't ever say you can pay off anything. You say real things like if you are looking to be married you make that clear then you see what she is offering you. Does she know how to cook and clean, is she coachable, has she kept her body count down, if she is these things then she might be worth it for you to then try further with. If she is not move on and be active but patient. Never do anything like expensive dates or buying gift or making it about your finances. If you are extremely well off then it will show in how you offer simple things without any worries. You say a man that is a 5 out of 10 in the looks department. Well if you get in good shape, have good personal hygiene, have decent clothes or where them in a respectful way that takes you from a 5 to a 6 or 7 with women a man with a average face but is physically superior to others is attractive to women. Go learn some self defense like mixed martial arts never talk about it just do it to be in better shape to be protective and even without anyone knowing your confidence will increase especially around places like bars, and clubs. If you live somewhere that has concealed carry go get training and get your card and carry it also adds to your ability to protect yourself and future wife. If you think these things don't matter go to a few clubs and ask the security guys how often they get hit on by women. Also I know of entire groups of women these days on the more conservative side that if you don't carry they will almost automatically remove you from their possible list. Use you money to improve yourself if you have a need to say things to show off your financial situation it needs to be about you having fun for yourself not about being lonely because women want men other women have or want they don't want thirsty, weak, needy, lonely guys. So if you go do things you want to do and have hobbies that are masculine then they will be attracted to you more. Such as if you like motorcycles go buy one and go get some extra training like higher level training even track training then go make friends in that group and go enjoy some rides guess what you will be more confident and it will show. Or day you wanted to travel somewhere go do it and then if you happen to have a woman ask you what you have done lately you can say oh I traveled a little lately, and in my free time me and my friends go ride out motorcycles. It can be anything really as long as it's not well I play video games and have a pokemon collecting group that's really fun. Sure some women out there might like those things but probably not the ones you want and the odds are low. Don't dress or act in ways that are not your own way it might work to get a woman but you can't keep up the lie forever and she will figure it out. If you are not actively masculine then you need to either accept that or you need to change. How to change is easy go do masculine things and find mentors that are willing to have you around to give you advice or call BS on you when you are not being so. Again never start the game where it's a transactional relationship not only will she only be with you for $ but if you marry her then she will stop trying to please you of course if you marry have a prenuptial preferably have marriage not involving the government or state! How what I'm saying makes sense. Basically if you as a man are not attracting women then work on yourself as man and stop worrying about it.

Christian-Phoenix · 2023-03-02T09:40:19+00:00

Definitely a lot of solid advice in this post.

Physical-Connection5 · 2023-03-12T17:00:27+00:00

That way lieth madness.
Yes. Because, sooner or later, she'll find someone that will provide more for her.
No. Christian or no, he's supposed to be savvy and confident enough to weed out the gold diggers.

Title	How overtly should one lean into wealth and status to attract a high-value woman?
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Date	October 21, 2022 6:45 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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