The Red Pill & Mate Selection

PhantomDream09 · 2016-04-19T16:42:44+00:00

Edit: I have locked this thread (at least for now). If you take the time to flesh out your post, then I will consider un-locking it so that a more thorough discussion can take place. As /u/Suzanne_by_the_River pointed out, it's just a bit too open-ended and vague to really say much other than "please familiarize yourself with the wiki" at this point. :0)

Don't you think the red pill wives' ideology and the red pill ideology bear contradictions in achieving the most convenient mating strategy?

This is a sub for women interested in LTRs and marriage. We agree with RP ideas.

Other, male focused subs focus on helping men acquire sex, improve their masculinity etc, while also diverting focus away from marriage for the most part. Which is fine, their priority is sex, although I do believe they are doing their users a disservice by writing certain things off.

Please be sure to check out the Wiki - there's a lot of great information to be found there.

No one here is trying to date a RP male user (people that have largely struggled to find success with women and are primarily concerned with achieving the lifestyle equivalent of a slutty woman). The users here are mostly already paired off and happy. We help single women make themselves more appealing and attractive to LTR/marriage minded men.

fuzzyface1980 · 2016-04-20T08:50:37+00:00

Gerald, Braffult's Law is at play with un-vetted men, which is a reason why men should limit posting here. See my history and PM me if you have questions as to why.

Merge MarriedRedPill with RedPillWives. My wife and I are currently seeing if this will work. It's working pretty damn well already. We will post in six months with findings.

This is the only "compromise" you will ever get. And it will be at a personal level; never to be constructive in a group setting like this. They will only follow their man. It's actually very beautiful if you think past the anger and your failure to be strong.

And if you can understand that, you know you can't enjoy the decline any longer. You are the decline. So go smash yourself against the rocks and get stronger. Pillow fight with your own girl. Not here.

geraldbaron88 · 2016-04-19T23:34:27+00:00

A man's SMV spikes in his 30s relative to women in his peer group. This doesn't generally lead to 30-something men dating women in their prime years. It means he has more leverage relative to women in his age range, and his datable age range trends downward. The extent of which it does, realistically, is not 10 years under most circumstances.

I don't know if any reasonable person would say that men, in aggregate, are most physical attractive in their 30s. Most signs of aging don't debilitate them as much as women, but like Phantom said, stuff by balding and dad bods will still cause men to lose physical appeal. It's just that less of his RMV hinges on his looks. However, many of the things that make men in their 30s more eligible for marriage--like money, are simply not lust-inducing.

Another big reason women should try to pair up when they're young is that there are simply more single high-quality men. On average men marry at 29 and as you move further past that age, the quality of the market declines. Women don't generally have the option of dating younger, so it is important for them to capitalize when they are young.

PemBayliss · 2016-04-20T19:01:29+00:00

Gerald:

It's no surprise that men and women are at cross-purposes in their dating, mating and sexual strategies. The end game is: Men want to get women to have sex early, fast, often and with as little investment as possible. Women want commitment from the highest value men they can get.

The "compromise", to the extent there can be one, is for men to be as high value as they can be, so as to remain with a woman he's attracted. For women, it's to persuade that high value man to commit, to keep that high value man once he's committed; and the way she does that is by going all in and committing herself to his economic success, relational contentment, and sexual satisfaction.

PhantomDream09 · 2016-04-19T19:55:31+00:00

whilst their male counterparts reach this stage by the time they're in their 30s.

You don't think men younger than thirty are attractive or successful?

I've read posts from alpha widows who claim to no longer bear options on the smp (sexual market place) compared to their prime years (16-23).

Yes, some women mis-match, or chase a guy that leaves them damaged. The same thing happens to men. This is why we tell women to work with biology, date with purpose and vet etc.

16 year old kids (male or female) are not capable of making a marriage work in today's culture.

The manosphere, however, stresses the frustration of boys/men in their teens and early 20s who feel neglected by their female counter parts within their appropriate age.

There's also a presence of men that married, but are frustrated and unfulfilled, or men that have divorced and are trying to re-enter the dating world.

They feel the need to commit to their girlfriends, on a long term basis, only for their proposal to be declined.

Women generally don't 'pass' on an opportunity to be with a good, masculine man.

Now, women are discouraged to date significantly older men

We tell women to date good men that are interested in LTRs/marriage. Age range will vary from user to user. My own 'range' was one year younger to ten years older.

Could there be a compromise that could better both the male and female mating strategy?

We're not a social or collective movement, changing the way dating works isn't on the agenda. All we do is try to help LTR/marriage minded women find/keep good men and create fulfilling relationships.

Title	The Red Pill & Mate Selection
Author	geraldbaron88
Upvotes	10
Comments	19
Date	April 19, 2016 4:12 PM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/RedPillWives
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