Hypergamy

leosandlattes · 2025-03-30T14:10:24+00:00

Hypergamy in the red pill sense is not just about money. It’s about male competence and his status among his peers. The “best male” in the room, so to speak.

There’s also room for individual variation of hypergamous urges. Some women have a much stronger sense of hypergamy than others, but this is also dependent on her background, culture, education, social class, socioeconomic class, and plain individuality.

I’m from the Philippines. Women from third world countries are just as hypergamous as first worlders. Requiring a man to be competent and being able to respect him as a prerequisite to loving him transcends economic conditions of a country. There’s a reason hypergamous serial monogamy is called “female nature” within red pill.

mungaihaha · 2025-03-30T12:57:30+00:00

I am a male living in a third world country. Hypergamy is everywhere

EDIT

Birth rate here is high because of low literacy levels. It's not rare to find men that have never used a condom, especially older men that never went to school

Ok_Outside149 · 2025-03-30T15:05:48+00:00

Coming from a third world country, I think hypergamy and other Evo psych stuff is even more prominent and brutal than in first world countries. Hypergamy is relative so a successful man in a developing country can look a lot different to a successful man in a developed country. You can be successful by having the farm with the most of amount of cows in the village. It’s part of the reason why average earning men in the west can go to poorer countries in latam/Asia/Africa and be like a god, but western women aren’t that impressed by his teacher salary (no offence to any teachers lol!).

I find it really funny when western men complain about how superficial western women are. In lots of countries women won’t even give your personality a chance if you don’t have money. Family members are even more brutal. Things like “marry for money not love” are super common mentalities in my home country but if you said that in the west people would be aghast!

AnonTheGreat01 · 2025-03-31T10:40:33+00:00

Hypergamy is just a universal, biological drive.

The premise is that a woman will always go after the highest value mate she (believes she) can land.

The only difference, I would say, between women from poor/rich countries is that women from poor countries are less picky and put up with more abuse just because they are much more reliant on men for survival.

The more economically self-reliant women become, the less a man's economic situation matters, however, the more , relatively speaking, other factors start to matter.

hollowedone23 · 2025-03-30T12:43:15+00:00

I said gdp/c and it autocorrected to communist for some reason.

krakasha · 2025-03-30T12:56:54+00:00

So poorer countries where the prospect of finding a "successful" rich man are basically non existent the birthrate remain high

It correlates much more closely with birth control and years of education.

In many poorer countries, specially in rural side, people can begin adult life at 15 years of age or sooner.

Without birth control and family planning plus modern medicine this will result in a lot of children.

but in societies where the chances of individual success rise the birth rates decline and "hypergamy" becomes a viable option even if that chance is still remarkably low.

Birth rate has no visible correlation with "hypergamy" or any other social theory.

Hypergamy itself is pseudo-science, as far as we know it is applicable almost exclusively to online interactions and it's mostly due to the enormous gender imbalance in most online platforms.

All the woman only got for the top 5% of man because there is usually a 20:1 gender imbalance.

The gender imbalance isn't even a matter of just number of users, but also how often these interact with the app with many man taking it almost as a part time job while many woman just do a few swipes before they are overwhelmed.

So it's more like protecting the environment where a nation needs to have a certain gdp/communist before concern for the environment becomes a national Europe again which is why we see this in developed nations and not so much in poorer regions.

There is significant effort to provide family planning and birth control to families across poorer nations, but this is a multi decades effort and not all country leaders support it.

kfdeep95 · 2025-03-30T16:04:30+00:00

Hypergamy is indeed everywhere like another person commented. It is deeply imbedded within our nature. Is it a first world problem? Definitely not lol it’s science, it is hardwired into us.

Example: I love my man to death and practically idolize him. Super simp for him. He is aware he can lose that if he fails to lead and inspire. Weakness does cause “the ick” but we should stand by good men obviously. That is just real life regardless of luxuries.

Hypergamy has absolutely 0 to do with finances. It is always present. It may influence how we act in a hypergamous manner but that’s as far as that goes.

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Title: Hypergamy

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Full text: Wondering what people's opinion on this is but I kind of believe that hypergamy is a luxury 1st world problem.

So poorer countries where the prospect of finding a "successful" rich man are basically non existent the birthrate remain high but in societies where the chances of individual success rise the birth rates decline and "hypergamy" becomes a viable option even if that chance is still remarkably low.

So it's more like protecting the environment where a nation needs to have a certain gdp/communist before concern for the environment becomes a national Europe again which is why we see this in developed nations and not so much in poorer regions.

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Nerdslayer2 · 2025-03-30T15:24:41+00:00

A lot of people are saying you are wrong but I think you're talking about different things.

Hypergamy as a feeling and desire is deeply ingrained in the female psyche. It's evolutionary psychology. Women invest a lot of time and energy in creating a child and the number of years they are able to create children is limited so it is beneficial to be extremely selective when choosing who to have children with. It makes sense to have a desire to have children only with the absolute best man that you can. This feeling/desire definitely still applies to third world countries.

But there is also hypergamy as a behavior, as in only being open to dating the top few percent of men even if they are out of your league and would never have a serious relationship with you. I think this is what you are talking about and while I don't know first hand, I do think this behavior is much more rare in poorer countries. Part of the reason is because in poorer countries the jobs are typically less white collar and more physical. Women rely more on men for income. It simply isn't practical to spend your 20s impotently trying to pursue a string of men who are out of your league. In the west most women can do that because they have their own decent salary to afford the things they need and want.

Another part of it is cultural. The vast majority of cultures have some form of slut shaming and monogamy enforcement. When serious relationships are the only socially acceptable form of relationship, hypergamous behavior doesn't really work. A woman might desire to be with a man who is out of her league, but if the only option for that man is a serious relationship, then he is going to be very picky as well and pick somebody within his league. This causes everybody to be with somebody roughly in their own league. Progressives in the west have decided slut shaming and monogamy enforcement is wrong and have largely eliminated it from their culture. If women are willing to have casual sexual relationships with men and it is considered socially acceptable, then the top few percent of men will likely have casual relationships with many women, most of whom they would never consider for a serious relationship. Women have casual relationships with very attractive men and think that they are in that same league and deserve a man of that quality. They think the men they have dated so far are just jerks for not wanting a serious relationship and they just need to date more men till they find one who is not a jerk. Progressive culture encourages this further by telling women to never settle, that they are all beautiful, a "queen", a 10, and other things to improve their self esteem while also reinforcing their unrealistic standards.

Hypergamous behavior creates a dating market where almost nobody is happy. Very few women are happy because they can't get commitment from the men they want. 90% of men are unhappy because they struggle to date anybody and the women they do date are less attractive than them and yet still seem disappointed by them. Really only the top few percent of men are happy with this arrangement, and even then it's in a superficial way. This is why practically every culture has practices slut shaming and monogamy enforcement. It regulates the dating market and makes the vast majority of people happier in relationships, which results in more children and stable families.

Ok_Split3699 · 2025-03-30T12:56:24+00:00

In some low income countries, hypergamy takes place in polygamous households.

VasiliyZaitzev · 2025-03-30T18:10:30+00:00

The species is the same around the world. It’s a matter of what local controls are put in place. You see rampant hypergamy in the West because we don’t put any “controls” for lack of a better term on women anymore. There are at least three major world religions that are focused on controlling female sexuality, so the train doesn’t go off the tracks.

I’m fairly certain if you look that in poor countries, you’re much more likely to have polygyny. In the West, this can be done “unofficially”, hence my lifestyle. Women everywhere as a group would rather have a share of Adam Alpha than all of Billy Beta.

Title	Hypergamy
Author	hollowedone23
Upvotes	14
Comments	23
Date	March 30, 2025 12:40 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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