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[–]LeftShark86 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Thanks for the post. Here's some stuff to think about.
tl;dr: This isn't a huge problem and will probably go away on it's own with minimal effort. Stick to the basic RP principles and get out of your own head.
What exactly is the problem? You found a decent girl you actually like? Let me take her off your hands while you waste the rest of your life away banging vapid plates you can't stand for more than a couple hours.
I think a lot of your confidence/abundance mentality has come more from a place of apathy rather than strength. Yea, you can get an unlimited number of HB8s when they're all worthless human beings who can barely write a legible fb post. When you meet a girl with a little more substance, that abundance mentally rightfully decreases, as there're aren't a bunch of worthwhile women.
There's nothing wrong with enjoying a worthwhile woman. The "oneitis" problem stems from over-investing and thinking of this woman as a special snowflake who can do no harm. If you internalize AWALT and act accordingly, what's the problem?
The fact that you're so concerned about double texting shows a woman-like level of insecurity. If you have any semblance of game and/or confidence, it doesn't really matter what you text. If you're thinking about it too much, you're probably doing it wrong.
I'm not going to get into the topic of religion, as TRP is really an amoral set of thoughts and tools to be used by you as you see fit. However, claiming to believe one thing and doing another is beta. Figure out how you want to live and live that way. No need to lie to yourself and others. Furthermore, Christianity and TRP are not mutually exclusive.
Keep in mind that you just met this girl. You haven't seen her without makeup and high heels on. You haven't seen her when she's in a bad mood or stressed. This false unicorn veneer will quickly fade and it will be easier for you to step back into a more RP interaction naturally. Take it easy while she's gone. I think the feelings will drop to a level that can be more easily handled in time.
Update us as needed.
[–]specter504[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
1 - Found one I like and am concerned that my regression to a blue pill mentality will lead to blue pill results.
2 - Bingo
3 - Blue pill mentality yields blue pill results.
4 - Got me there. I'm going to go hunt some ducks (literally) and relax.
5 - They aren't, my behavior is, and I'm aware that this is an issue. It is one I'm actively working on.
6 - Yep. That is a certainty with how the mind works.
A - Learned something further. Thanks for the advice. B - It's already getting easier, but getting knocked off balance for 10 days has me rattled because I was watching myself do things I know I shouldn't. The loss of internal control is unnerving. Looking at it through lens is quite helpful. C - Happy New Years ya' filthy animal.
[–]Endorsed ContributorUrsusG 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You should have posted this in askTRP.
How do I emotionally disengage from this?
Tell your ADHD doctor that you need OCD drugs now. But more seriously:
Do you want to emotionally disengage so that you can enjoy her (and other women) as a plate and keep your lifestyle?
Or do you want to emotionally disengage so that you can successfully maneuver your oneitis to the altar, get married, have kids and live happily until divorce do you part and you wake up regretting your insanity with half your assets and massive alimony?
[–]specter504[S] -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
First half of the second option.
My assets are safe.
Gotcha, refiled. Feel free to delete or whathaveyou
[–]FerrusMan 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Just don't let your emotions dictate your actions, and remember the red pill theories. You know, don't let her lead, don't be the servant, don't be afraid to make her mad, you know the drill. Remember your training! It can be done, you just have to adapt running game, as it were, to 7x24.
[–]specter504[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yep. What I should have done immediately was go back through all this material as opposed to spinning out of control for 10 days.
[–]FerrusMan 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't sweat it, we all regress from time to time. It's a marathon not a sprint, and the occasional stumble still won't stop you from crossing the finish line.
[–]waldo888 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Firstly, In my opinion love is a real emotion and very valuable. Love must be distinguished from oneitis which I agree is where you seem to be heading. Oneitis is not the emotion of love, it is the emotion of desperation, of never being able to meet another like that, of giving to much of yourself away in order to secure that person. Oneitis is when you subconsciously perceive that person to be out of your league. This girl may be out of your league. You can pretend to be the greatest dude but your emotion is telling you that you're gonna have to be better to keep this chick around, or just pretend to be, but you'll be found out. Secondly, talk is cheap, the more you have to say it the less it is true. You mentioned alpha a whole bunch. you also mentions a lot abot how amazing you are, you also said you have an inability to focus. I hope you can compartmentalize and not get offended, I am but a dude on the internet with an opinion. You should spen that high IQ learning a bit about psychology, and how that mayers-briggs shit is bullshit. Oh such the strategist how to play this situation to your advantage....you should just look up NPD. your on the spectrum and it prevents you from being a real complete and honest person.
[–]specter504[S] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
1) Agreed
2) To an extent you're right, she's ideologically out of my league because I claim to believe one set of standards (Christian) but live by a contrary (secular) set of standards.
2a) They're separate things? Either you're wrong or I'm further up my own ass than I thought.
3) MBTI bullshit is excellent game material because it's easy to comprehend, so most people eat it up.
4) Yep, TRP comes easy because I have the neurological disorders that we advocate mimicking.
5) I like to fancy myself a well adjusted male, I can take advice without getting butthurt. Thanks for it.
A) You're on the spectrum.
B) How would you define love? Not looking for a be all end all answer, but there's 7 billion different answers and I want to hear as many well articulated definitions as I can.
C) TL;DR - Thanks for the advice.
EDIT: NPD. Incurable and barely treatable. Joy.
[–]waldo888 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
I love your response. And I'd enjoy to discuss my philosophy on love further if you wish privately. It is a loaded term. One answer "selfless appreciation" and it applies to all things that one can love. Oneitis is when love crosses into nasty territory, infatuation perhaps. an offshoot of love. Rp does not advocate mimicking neurological disorders, that is just a shortcut. I used to be on the spectrum you grammar nazi, curable I am sure with temporary relapse perhaps. Hint: games are fun but full of bullshit. Youre there now so why not stop trying. EDIT: or perhaps you're just trying to tell a bunch of people why jumping on a couch isn't such a bad thing after all.
A shortcut to what - developing those disorders?
[–]waldo888 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
no, for example narcissism mimics confidence. Machiavellian/anti social, mimics actually having a fucking amazing life. So you can play the game or actually be amazing.
[–]FerrusMan 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think a lot of guys equate Oneitis as falling in love, it's just a sterile name for it, I know I do. Be it the same or different however, following red pill theory is always best.
Yeah, when I posted this I hadn't even considered that there would be a difference.
Oneitis being only wanting one woman... which is a concept that seems foreign to me now.
[–]jpeg_hero1 points 10 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Lol, ok, somebody's hopped up on the addy's...
What's your issue? You don't want to be into the girl you date?
Worried that being into too much her is rocking my state control and that will screw up dating someone I'm in-to.
Addy is a permanent state for me.
[–]ModRedSovereign[M] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Post questions to /r/asktrp.
[–]TRP VanguardCyralea -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You're an interesting case, a man with genuine abundance mentality without actual abundance. Naturally when a high SMV chick digs her claws into you you buckle. The whole point of actual abundance is to ward off the effects of oneitis. It's a chemical process in your head, you should know it's going to happen. Your body was designed over tens of thousands of years to behave this way.
Seriously, spend more of your time hunting high quality women. Online is a good way to get access to thousands of women; even if quality women are one in 100,000, you can scan through that many in any major metro online.
As an aside, you may want to consider giving up gaming or scaling it back. It's likely contributing to your ADHD. This coming from another ENTJ who used to have similar issues.
[–]specter504[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I must need to revalue my scale of women's SMV. It seems that it my be too much based on physical traits.
Yep, a great deal of our theories concern the behavior of women according to evolution vs. current cultural mandates. Of course the same happens in men, whoops.
Giving up / Scaling it back? Feeding my ADHD? Please expand upon this and I do not understand the link between the two.
[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Gaming feeds that need to indulge in immediate gratification, which builds on the short-attention hyperactivity. It literally wires your brain in a way to exacerbate the effects. Had no idea until I gave up gaming and focused more on longer-term rewards.
Just something to consider.
[–]specter504[S] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
facepalm
I read gaming to mean Game as in gaming women, not video games.
Absolute swing and a miss for reading comprehension. Interesting.
Looks like one of my boys is getting a console for New Years. I've been meaning to cut it out eventually, why not now.
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