America Will Fall

Dr_Gabe_Lackman · 2014-12-13T21:58:09+00:00

Total agreement; we need to make marriage mean something again and that means discouraging people who can't commit to what marriage means otherwise they will destroy themselves.

Women have changed marriage laws because they feel entitled to it and we need to make marriage an equitable establishment designed to never fail, because that is the only way a man will operate in good faith in the marriage knowing that he will never be turned into a wage slave of even greater proportions than he otherwise would be.

Straight men need to start a campaign for marriage equity.

End no fault divorce, set the vows as legally binding portion of the contract. Not meeting the vows would be grounds for divorce.

Make laws and amendments to state constitutions that demand the recognition of prenuptial agreements.

End common law marriage as it is criminal to force an individual into a contract.

Those with children during a divorce aught to be forced to pay an equal share into a trauma fund for their child on account of the divorce. Living in a broken home is tantamount to child abuse and parents should be legally responsible for creating a life and torturing that human's soul in such a cruel way, there should be a trust fund for all children of divorce set by the parents to provide the child with the funds to escape his broken home at age 18 or establish a life the child has been neglected of. This is partly for the child but I think doing this would mostly be a great discouragement to divorce when you have children.

Women see marriage as disposable because society sees it as disposable because feminism decided it should be disposable because women have a projection of male disposability because men allow that projection of disposability to be reinforced.

Stop projecting disposability, male disposability now that we are living in modern times is becoming a hindrance to society, we no longer need to protect women over men in fact we have too few good men in society because of disposability which creates a cycle of fatherless children, crime, divorce and further disposability.

Make it clear from a male perspective what is valuable and don't make a shitty bet don't let female entitlement push you into a bad bet, only marry a woman that is a virgin. Gen X and the millennial generation are being called lost generations of males but I know we are not the problem we are conditioned and reacting to a systemic societal problem, the best way to fix this going forward is to break the conditioning and create a lost generation of women, the spinster generation. We don't marry sluts, only virgins and we completely ignore these women and hold a grudge on them until our deaths so that their toxic ideology and entitlement can't destroy us.

They want to blame us for all their problems and call us monsters? Maybe we aught to become the monsters they wanted us to be. They've developed a matriarchal suicide cult in the midst of our culture so I say we fight back with good old traditional patriarchy.

MrMagwitch · 2014-12-14T02:12:57+00:00

Wolf_A · 2014-12-13T22:12:30+00:00

Marriage has failed. Without marriage, or children, we will head for a steady unstable decline.

This is an unfortunate situation which arose from trying to balance some things by resorting to extreme measures like no fault divorces awarded to all women, rampant false rape charges and so on. It's just getting so out of control that now feminists want men to be facing rape charges for violence in video games... don't even.

Scientifically disproven facts that video games have nothing to do with that, but you can't knock sense into these women's brain because their gut feeling precedes all logic and reason.

How is it fixed? Do we want to fix this? Reform marriage and divorce laws on both the state and federal level. At fault will be the default, those at fault get nothing.

That is not very likely to happen anytime soon because the politicians have no interest to loose their votes for a greater cause. They will only pass laws which will be more appealing to modern society in general, because their top priority is, you guessed it, relection. They cannot afford to be vilified/trolled by the feminazis if found taking a logical stance on various issues on similar lines (latest example: wage gap).

It can only happen from us individuals who won't take any BS of the feminist agenda. We have to draw a line day-in-day out and teach our kids right and expose them to the true nature of the modern world.

I have not given up on the legal system yet. And sadly, I would think that it'll take a lot of false allegations and lot of innocent male victims to acknowledge that the system is broken and easy to abuse in order to bring any change. But until anything happens the onus is on us as individuals and we need to take that responsibility to get all the family values back.

vandaalen · 2014-12-13T22:13:22+00:00

The USA is dying the slow and painful death that every empire died before, because it suffers of the same diseases those other empires had, and shows the same symptoms, and frankly I can't wait for it to make it final convulsions.

In fact it is dead already and just kept alive artificialy. I just learned from a frontpage post, that an astonishing 80 cents out of every dollar of next year's budget of 1.1 trillion goes into military and repression. That single fact speaks volumes on its own, about the state of that country and its economy.

The US is lashing out like a dying beast and it will undienably draw the whole world down into the pit with it, but I can live with that - well or die with it.

AchillesOtherLeg · 2014-12-14T06:16:49+00:00

Your first problem will be socialism.

If there are increasing number of single women without 'sufficient' income there will be political pressure to tax sexless betas to give it to them. There is a gap between this biting betas and destroying the economy and that gap is where the nation will sit.

Reforming marriage and retaining socialism wont be enough to reverse the decline. Socialism is a shit test and men are failing.

pissoutofmyass · 2014-12-13T21:32:03+00:00

What do you mean America, Detroit? Already fell. California? Falling and also thriving. Utah, the midwest, and rural America? Stability abound.

TheRedThrowAwayPill · 2014-12-13T23:44:22+00:00

At fault will be the default, those at fault get nothing. Affairs, physical abuse, but not unhappiness. People can still divorce if they like, but they keep nothing. How do we solve the child problem which may pose a legal loophole for your hard earned money, and future life?

This already is starting to sound like an Islamic Marriage Contract. Which in a nut shell looks just like an American Marriage Certificate but with a Pre-Nup baked directly into it.

PoopSmearMoustache · 2014-12-14T09:08:29+00:00

Destroying the family values a culture was founded on will likely lead to apathy and decadence. People used to work hard just for the chance to live well. Their prime motivations were clear, bring up kids within a stable family environment and retire comfortably. I'm not seeing many gen y/m people really driven by this hierarchy of motivations anymore - it has mostly reversed.

Kids from a long line of single mothers won't be able to draw upon any examples of a decent upbringing to give their own kids. And the boys especially will have no conceivable long-term paths to strongly believe in - other than perhaps degeneracy.

It's just like other societies told us, turns out the passions and higher purposes of countrymen all rested on women playing ball relationship wise.

Perhaps stricter divorce laws will help slow the collapse, but the progressive propaganda forces are in full swing and they work terribly well. I don't see a turn to decency without a big catalyst like world war - that is if we can find 12M men willing to join the draft with vigor.

To be honest it's sad but true, there is a case to fall back on censorship and religious ideology as they are designed to govern people well much like the state. Even if they are illogical and brutal at times they do promote cohesion of family, community and nation.

foomfoomfoom · 2014-12-14T15:26:05+00:00

America won't fall. We're just coming near the end of the domestic family. A lot of writers (Plato, Marx, Huxley) have described a future where there is no dad-mom-kid family. And we can look at modern women behaving more and more like common-wives. Except not every man is ensured a wife, or a woman to raise his kids. Women are fucking whoever they want (and whoever makes the moves to fuck them), while drawing increasing lifestyle support from the government. The government is becoming BB, and that's what we would expect to see in a society with common-wives.

One important point: from an evolutionary perspective, it doesn't matter if you love the mother of your children, or if she isn't committed to you, or whatever. All that matters is who has kids and who doesn't. My recommendation is to get 20-somethings pregnant, and then let the government or betas take over child-rearing.

Darkone06 · 2014-12-16T16:24:28+00:00

I like a leasing option where after say the 3 or 5 year mark we both have to sign to keep the relationship going or to let it expire.

You should have the option to renegotiate the terms of your relationship as you age. Marriage should also have a renewal date.

This would make it easier for BOTH to walk away cleanly if they dont feel it is benefitting them. This will keep both parties on their toes since both have to prove their worth not just the guy.

GreenPiller · 2014-12-14T06:23:28+00:00

Massive student loans, media brainwashing, and the list continues... no hope for young Americans...

R4F1 · 2014-12-14T11:33:35+00:00

Step 1. End wars.

Contrary to some opinions, wars don't make society masculine. Wars allow men to be treated as if they are disposable, while the government (and women, lobbyists, special-interest who are exempted from war) can run amok back home. It takes a lot of fearmongering to start a war, and its during that time that the government gets away with murder (of our rights and liberties).

Step 2. Point out the prejudice of the justice system.

The justice system disproportionately targets men and ethnic-minority men. Women more often than not, get a pussypass. But rather than trying to harden the punishment against women, we should point out the discrimination against men instead. These men mostly happen to be minorities, because most of the laws that put men in prison are based on racist laws ; 2/3 of prisoners are in prison due to non-violent drug laws which have racist and corporatist roots. Minorities makeup 35% of the population, but 60% of the prison population.

Blacks makeup 13% of the population, 40% of prisoners, and 72% of Blacks are born out of wedlock. Why do i bring up the last 72% figure? It's because single-mom families lead to higher rates of delinquency, which feeds into the cycle of men going to prison, which is what the government wants (you will die to war, prison or taxes!). Furthermore, one of the reasons Blacks have a high rate of single-mother households is precisely because so many men are in prison. 1 in 3 Black men will have been in prison in their lifetime.

Step 3. Once men are saved from being sent to prison or war, target the welfare state next.

One of the biggest reason men are in the ditch of society, is because we have been artificially rendered obsolete by the State. Why would a woman need a man to provide for her when the government does that just fine? If we can save men from prison and war, we will have already weakened the welfare state to a significant degree. Men will be present in numerous households by default (who otherwise would have been locked up, sent away or dead). After that, we simply need to rally against the welfare state against its favoritism towards women in the legal system, such as in matters of alimony and divorce, by which the state acts to tear apart families that already exist.

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pissoutofmyass · 2014-12-13T22:52:31+00:00

foreign wives is the solution. there are plenty of women who come from societies where marriage is valued and divorce is a social disgrace.

people say women are all the same; this is bs and based on their lack of experience with non-american women. the other advantage of this is that it starves american women of money, which is an end in itself.

i do agree that there is going to be a strong push for social welfare for women though.

RockyMountainTaste · 2014-12-13T23:55:29+00:00

I would suggest an IQ test, but then only men would be allowed to get married. Maybe we could make an IQ test for men and a dumbed-down emotion-based IQ test for women?

AnonTheAnonymous · 2014-12-14T03:34:10+00:00

Mods need to seriously crack down on shitposting.

Nobody comes here to read some Alex Jones grade doomed-future because women wont give men what they want. The preservation of Glorious Fatherland America is not the goal of the red pill. It is not to go back to the 50's where women stay with their ass-hat frumpy husbands who cant satisfy them emotionally nor sexually, merely because they rely on them for financial support, the goal is not to strong arm women into submission due to some material need from us.

The goal is to figure out how to be what women find sexually arousing, and how to understand covert communication and shit so you can actually be alpha as apposed to some situational alpha dickhead, where women are selectively submissive to you because you can make their vaginas get all tingly and wet and EVERYBODY is happy. Women aren't the enemy, we just failed at them because we never understood them, because we never had to, because they were reliant on us anyway. Now they are not reliant, so now they have the luxury to select men on purely sexual grounds as well.

Yes feminism is evil and hates us all. Yes divorce law is fucking bizarrely female beneficial. Women's new-found sexual freedom coupled with MOST men's white knight foolishness caused shit to go all scrambled, eventually men will figure their shit out, shit will stabilize, we are just square in the middle of this sexual upheaval womens sexual agency created in a world where very few men are naturally sexually appealing to women, and the rest are clueless.

RICCIedm · 2014-12-13T23:33:57+00:00

i don't think this is RP related. I don't give a shit about any country's sucess or failure anymore.

RedPillWatchTower · 2014-12-13T21:54:52+00:00

Yeah, and it's going to be fucking awesome.

I will do my best to promote the popular election of the President. Just like Rome, endless civil war will start once the Republicans realize they'll almost never have political power again.

2/3 of the time, congress is controlled by the libtards. Give them the Presidency with popular elections too thus Supreme Court so that the useless, feminized Republicans can become desperate and support a Sulla.

I will rape and kill as many as I can in the chaos.

Title	America Will Fall
Author	venusmylove
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Date	December 13, 2014 9:13 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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