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[–]NotClothed0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Comedy, but I am 23 with blond hair and blue eyes so I really don't know.
[–]Tongue37[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol I prkobably worded it wrong but I know what I meant to ask!
[–]wench_enabler0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They probably feel like Sysiphus but with weak ass arms.
[–]tebor80 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you are dating around enough, that should lift your spirits and make you not think about your physical attractiveness. Women look at the whole package. Maybe they can sense your frustration.
I can get laid quite often..it's comical that women think im a player because im socially adept yeah never chase or Pursue..I just looked around at other guys when I was out the other night and I couldn't imagine what these guys had to do to get women and keep them..
[–]trippinallday0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Everyone I know who was short and unattractive but still pulled (more than anyone else might I add) had one thing in common; insane hubris. They were the most self assured, confident, confrontational people I knew and bitches loved it.
[–]Endorsed ContributorThotwrecker0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
There's two strategies. One is to not give a shit, not worry about your looks, just focus on success in general and trust that if you go for chicks, many will reject you, but some wont.
This approach 100% works and I've seen it work for guys who genuinely have the balls to just not be self-conscious and not be a little bitch about how they look.
The second approach is to focus on your looks intensely. No man has any excuse for not being muscular and ripped, unless they are in crippling medical conditions or crippling poverty. You can have a sexy body.
You can go full metro. Learn how to groom, get pro haircuts that fit your face, wear fitted clothes that look good, get good shoes. Get lasik, get a nose job, shit do what is required. If you got man boobs, pony up and get the surgery if losing weight and managing your diet/exercise won't fix it. Do what's required.
This approach also works. It improves your SMV as much as humanly possible, and improves your confidence because you feel more attractive.
So you can pick. Or you can be smart, and do both at the same time. That is really the art of applying TRP. You have to care so intensely about your goals that you push yourself to perfect your body, mind, social skills, and other components of SMV. But you simultaneously have to not care about whatever deficiencies you may have, and ignore all the evidence out there in the real world that tells you that you are an ugly, low value loser.
So to answer you, since you seem to want to know what being ugly is like, I'll tell you. It's to constantly be juggling between giving a massive shit, and not giving a singular shit. Being ugly is figuring out how to care about your appearance without caring about your appearance.
It's living with the knowledge that no matter how good you are, you'll never be as good as you could have been if you rolled the genetic lottery differently - and being OK with that knowledge. Not in denial of it, not hating the world for being shallow, but just accepting the truth and not being bothered by it. Because even if it halves or quarters your pussy rate, you can still get more bitches in your life that is good for you. And even if you have to work harder and stay in way better shape, or develop way more personality to get good results... that work made you a better, healthier, happier person in the long run.
[–]Tongue37[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I guess with me is what knocks me back a few notches is my introversion and reclusive nature..luckily, my looks, muscular frame and the fact that I can be charismatic when I want to be helps win many women over..
4-5 months ago I got into Internet dating and was close to starting to go further metro but i dimply couldn't bring myself to do it..lol..I realized that it's just too much work to get laid..this is what the purpose of this thread is..examining the effort some guys have to put in to get laid..luckily my looks are enough to where I don't need to learn and recite a ton of game to get laid..that or i ding need a fancy career and great social status to get pussy..even still, my effort overall is low output compared to others yet I still think it's not worth the end result for the most part..
Maybe im just lazy or perhaps one of the more enlightened ones?
[–]Endorsed ContributorThotwrecker0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If getting laid is a lot of work, then you're not as high SMV or naturally charismatic as you think you are. Like you said, you have a introverted and reclusive nature, which is not necessarily a beta trait, but it's definitely a trait that many betas have and can lead to you getting characterized as a beta. So you have to work hard to be the outgoing extroverted alpha guy to get laid, and that requires effort because it's you being someone who you're not naturally.
If you want my advice, it's that being introverted and reclusive is bad and you should wipe it out, for general career and female success. Become genuinely extroverted and develop yourself to be fully comfortable and happy in the company of people.
If I had to guess, I'd guess that deep down what's going on is that you believe women are not worth the effort because they require you to change who you are, and who you are is a big part of your identity - there's always great resistance to becoming genuinely extroverted and charismatic instead of it being an act you can put on.
And about ugly people again, I never viewed it as going to great lengths to get women. I viewed it as going to great lengths to not be an ugly piece of shit and to improve myself to the point where I could be proud of myself. Now yes, the thought of pussy and female validation does help push you through the tough moments when you feel like not going to the gym or not going out, but ultimately you're putting in effort to become a sex-worthy man.
It's like putting in effort so that I become someone who doesn't have to put much effort into getting laid. In your case since you say you have a good base of physical SMV, a good chunk of effort could set you up to have relatively effortless pussy (all pussy has acquisition and maintenance costs, it never goes down to zero).
Oh trust me, I don't put much effort i to getting laid..im pretty lazy in this area but even then I see it as too much effort..again, this is why I cant comprehend how guys who look bad do it..
Luckily my introversion can help me look mysterious to certain women lol..with others, it so ply doesn't work, not compatible..literally im lucky if I want to go out socially once a week..
Your third paragraph summed it up perfectly I think..I have to become a more socially interested person to do well with women ..to me, socializing is a lot of work..
"Become genuinely extroverted"
Not sure if serious..im introverted, I can't become extroverted no matter how much effort I put into it..I can act etroverted but that's it..introversion is about where I gain energy, I get it from thinking and solitude..socializing is very draining to me..I have good social skills but still very low social battery
Ahh just read your last 2 paragraphs again..that's exactly what I was wanting to know, it was hard to ask though lol..I just see my buddies who are out of shape and below average face and can't fathom the amount of effort they put into getting laid..I've seen some of what they do and it makes me cringe..they have helped women move for free, helped paint their rooms, bought them things, been a shoulder to cry on whenever necessary..thats the thing, will them doing ghese things for women get them laid? Imo it won't, well perhaps maybe a pity fuck every once in awhile but that's it..yet like you mentioned, this is what some guys have to do..
No it won't, because these guys are essentially adding on a NEGATIVE trait - supplication, beta friend zone status, etc whatever you want to call it - to their already low SMV.
High SMV guys can get away with helping women move for free, being a shoulder to cry on, and then still find a way to slip her the D when she breaks up with her asshole BF. It's still a terrible strategy but it can work for them.
But low SMV guys, the more effort they put in, the more disgusting and repulsive they are to women. If they teased her, acted cocky, messed with her head a little, tried to get her to help them move, etc, then what would happen is that 90% of the girls would feel he's being weird and creepy - aka acting above his "station" or SMV - whereas that 10% would actually roll with it. If you are ugly and impervious to high rejection odds, you can plow your way to pussy through not giving a fuck. It's bad odds, but it's better than zero odds, which is what helping them move for free gets them.
Ha ha you are correct..I've seen a few guys try to mess with women's heads and play with her that way but they were low level guys..these guys both do what you mentioned, they just wade through the hordes of rejections just to get lucky that one night..that's what they live for it seems..I see the effort though, oh my lol..that effort could be focused on something else..plus, the Time they spend is cringe worthy..
[–]TheSp4rk0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I work at me and it shows: I don't try to fit into others standards. If you're playing a game, you've already lost or you're actually playing into a woman's game.
Let me give you an example. Last weekend, I went to a club, solo. I danced to dance, spent maybe 30-40 minutes having fun. At some point, some booty came a little closer, and the dancing got racier. I got in there for me, she was hot and horny and wanted to grind. I escalated a bit. Grabbing boobs within 5. inner thighs at 10. by 20 I could feel how turned on she was, my fingers were wet and warm - still dancing. She pulled my hand back and licked and sucked on my fingers... all while grinding still. Danced for 10-15 more, then she walked off and started heading for the bar, maybe thinking I would follow... Did not care, kept dancing. I danced with a few other girls that night. I just went to have fun! So fuck the social nonsense, stop trying to fit a schedule or a checklist to get anywhere. Do you, that's what you want to read, because you know that's what works. I can't tell you how many pussies I hear gently moan about "that guy who seems to be so into his book" or "that guy who enjoys his food"... Surprise motherfucker, it's because I am enjoying it. Now for all you lurkers who are going to think about this the next time you go to a park to read, or sit for food at a restaurant, here's the one thing to remember: If you catch yourself thinking about how you look to others eating or reading, then you're doing it wrong. Make it about you, go and taste the food. Block out the chatter and read the book, get in the story. Pour yourself into the world like you're a freaking ocean: it won't matter what you look like.
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