Could it be that Feminism is Capitalist propaganda? A kind of thought control to keep specialized intellectual labor cheap?

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68461674897051454980 · 2015-03-26T05:37:27+00:00

this OP has a lot of logical disconnects and some kind of weird victim mentality, but here are a few of the weirder points

They don’t see that it is to Capitalism’s advantage to encourage these high-economic value women to have abortions and practice constant birth-control

there is no 'capitalism guy' sitting up on a mountain manipulating people. it allows men & women to pursue their self interest. why would a 'high economic value woman', one who paid a good amount for an education, why would they drop out of the work force to have a kid? And even when they have them, they usually are not a full-time parent as they have a lucrative job which makes working + paying for someone to help raise the kid more profitable than staying at home to raise the kid.

Notice how Feminism encourages abortion and constantly polices women to exercise birth control—but most especially among the best educated women

same point as above.

No, Feminism pushes abortion and birth control among top-tier college women most especially.

yes, a girl 3 years in to a degree that's cost $150,000... her options would be have the kid and put her graduation at risk, or abort and have a kid later.

Also you make feminism seem like some abstract concept or something, and it's being pushed on to white college girls. Who do you think is coming up with this feminism shit? Poor black girls working at mcdonalds? So of course the people peddling this BS will be the first to follow it. Not to mention there are lots of feminists against abortion, because feminism has no real perspective and is just a concept used by women to justify a belief in something.

There's no grand scheme or plot by "the man". It allows a person to pursue their own self-interests. If they want kids, great have kids. If they want a job, then ok get one and compete in a fair and balanced jobs market.

But then don't complain about your choices later, which is what modern feminists do. ('I couldn't have a career i was just a baby machine for the patriarchy' or 'i was tricked by the patriarchy to follow my career and now i'm too old to have kids')

theHangedGod · 2015-03-26T13:11:35+00:00

Alright, this is ridiculous.

First, capitalism has no propaganda. There isn't a group of men calling themselves "The Capitalists" and pulling the strings of what women want and don't want. Capitalism is a way of doing business, it's about free market economy. In a capitalist economy, the market dictates what businesses exist and don't exist. Society gets the businesses it pays for.

Feminism isn't driving down the cost of labor, the world's population blowing up in the last 50 years is what's causing that. Compared to the amount of young men entering the work force in the last couple of years, feminism is small potatoes.

The problem with feminism is its affect of the expectations of women. When feminists says to a young girl "Focus on your career, then no man can make you feel worthless." or "Use college to find yourself, don't let your inhibitions stop you from experiencing what you want." they make young girls feel empowered by riding the CC and neglecting personal relationships/health to focus on a career.

Basically Feminism is an attempt to destabilize gender roles in society, not capitalist propaganda.

ayn-ahuasca · 2015-03-26T10:36:59+00:00

You've subscribed to the illusion that women are actually good at these jobs, and that companies want to hire more of them. If this were true then it would have happened without policy incentives such as hiring so many women/minorities to qualify for federal contracts, or the threat of lawsuits for discrimination etc.

The truth is that they hire women in order to win government contracts and avoid lawsuits. Then they do their darndest to put them in positions such as middle management, night shifts, or other brain dead roles where they can do the least harm.

Societal planning of any sort, including feminism, is completely antithetical to capitalism, or rather laissez faire, as defined by Smith et al. If you mean "capitalism" as in "whatever the US is doing", then yes, feminism is part and parcel of the whole disaster.

BowDown2Anthony · 2015-03-26T13:49:18+00:00

BS Article. Capitalism is the enemy of "the system." Feminism is its best friend

Piroko · 2015-03-26T14:28:56+00:00

Consumerism? Maybe.

Capitalism? No.

Feminism requires the state to transfer wealth, but capitalism is opposed to the state doing so because it penalizes success at capitalism. A capitalist utopia has absolutely no social safety net, and consequently will be extremely traditionalist because women will overwhelmingly choose the optimal survival strategy (traditional monogamous marriage with the man as head of household).

oldredder · 2015-03-26T09:53:29+00:00

This is an utter misunderstanding of what capitalism even is much less how to adjust it.

Feminism is a way of forcing men to such desperation they must work, therefore it is slavery. Forced labour isn't capitalism. Not working when faced with child support = jail. Prison for non-participation to your own robbery is anti-capitalism at its finest.

This is why zerohedge.com not reddit is the source of the red pill.

Shame. This post is like a giant hammer hitting your own skull as if that would somehow make us all smarter. It won't.

But they don’t see it. They don’t see that it is to Capitalism’s advantage to encourage these high-economic value women to have abortions and practice constant birth-control—all for the sake of their careers

Also ludicrous: a man lead to trust what he should not, by the pill "working", will mean he's more prone to getting an STD from a cheating girlfriend or wife, or there being an oops-pregnancy when she stops taking the pill & lies so his finances are ruined and hers are enriched by robbery enforced by courts - none of that is capitalism.

Capitalism requires consenting, informed trade, not robbery using the state.

To use the state's laws avoids all economic models period. The nearest is Fascism with it being the merger of corporation & government, but certainly not capitalism, where we have individual trade & ownership of the means of production, and certainly not socialism where people collectively own the means of production,

and people are not owned as they are not the means of production. They are the owners & consumers, the traders, sellers, buyers. Means of production is animals, factories, tools, land, etc.

oldmantrp · 2015-03-26T06:07:58+00:00

Capitalism is insensitive to feminism. It doesn't care who is doing work, so long as there are profits and the ability to generate profits grows across the macro economy.

When the cost of goods and services decreases, the cost of labor also decreases. This puts less wages in the pockets of the average worker. Families needed two incomes, starting around the 1970s, to handle the consumer surplus created by the beginning of globalization.

Women have always worked. They worked on farms along side men for thousands of years. There was a period during industrialization where most of the work was done by men and women became homemakers - factories were physically very demanding. One the information age hit and work became less physically intensive, women went to work, this time outside of the homestead.

The economy was able to grow because there were a thriving middle class that could earn and and redeploy their earnings in to the economy by spending the majority of wages.

mykonos_rm · 2015-03-26T13:42:48+00:00

In pure capitalism, business operate within their own interest for profit. Company's have no motive to delve into culture and politics unless it aligns in with their profit motive. I'm not sure what corporate America's role is in pushing feminism beyond marketing and pr strategy, but....

We have the tech industry lobbying for immigration reform under the guise of diversity, and with the change in visa requirements these tech companies are also able to access a cheaper source of labor that they can import. News outlets are already reporting stories of IT staff training their foreign replacements before being let go.

max_peenor · 2015-03-26T15:15:20+00:00

Capitalism is largely dead in the west. It's been replaced by virtually risk-free enterprise funded by giant central banks and endless debt facilities. Among many retarded behaviors this fosters, I will agree it definitely promotes a society where there are no consequences for actions... and therein you find the core of modern western feminism.

DerMef · 2015-03-26T05:36:00+00:00

the average price of the labor in those inelastic labor markets goes up quickly

That makes no sense. "Inelastic" means that there aren't going to be any quick changes.

In any case, I find it disappointing how many people completely miss the point when it comes to jobs and the labor market. Work is there to create value. If more people work in productive jobs, more people create value and everyone benefits from that increased amount of available wealth.

Yes, if there were no women in high-paying jobs (e.g. doctors), then these jobs would pay more. But that's only because the result of those jobs (e.g. going to the doctor) would be less available, so its price increases to reduce the amount of people that can use it.

Unless you want poor people to have less access to doctors, you can't be against more people working as doctors.

selfsufficientnigga · 2015-03-26T08:03:14+00:00

Feminism isn't a 'capitalist' propaganda per se, but it was coopted by the top that exploits the rest of us for 1) lowering the price of the labor 2) having one more wedge that they can use to divide us and make us not see the real problem

Title	Could it be that Feminism is Capitalist propaganda? A kind of thought control to keep specialized intellectual labor cheap?
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Date	March 26, 2015 4:34 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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