Don't forget what the Red Pill actually is

Hakametal · 2017-01-15T22:11:27+00:00

This is a topic that I have had clashes with other members on this sub over, and should be debated fully. Overall, I agree with everything you said and there's nothing BP about it.

There is so much attention given to the bad qualities of ~~women~~ people. Talk of hypergamy, talk of AWALT, talk of women being incapable of loving men in the same way men love women. Honestly, it's going too far imho. For the new guys? Maybe it's ok and maybe it's needed to be harsh.

But in my experience, men and women are capaple of the same things when it comes to deceit, cheating, manipulation etc.

I'm an attractive guy, and I've fucked around a lot. I learned a lot from it, but mostly that it's not fulfilling in the long run. I've broken hearts of women, good women. Why? Mostly because it came down to a deep insecurity, which was my ego was huge.

After reading the above paragraph, tell me what is the difference between what I did and what a hypergamous women does. Seriously. Even ONEitis and Alpha Widows are exactly the same thing. Too much black and white on this sub, and not enough grey. In fact, this sub is/already has turned into an echo chamber.

If anyone wants to have an honest and open debate about this then by all means let's get one going.

throw17453 · 2017-01-15T20:11:44+00:00

You've bolded too much, it makes your whole post seem erratic and alarming.

Rollo-Tomassi · 2017-01-16T19:12:44+00:00

A couple more pertinent posts to read:

https://therationalmale.com/2012/11/06/people-are-people/

https://therationalmale.com/2013/10/23/not-all-women-arent-like-that/

When I read criticisms of TRP being too 'cynical' or 'angry' 9 times out of ten it's from a noob who's shocked at the reality the RP poses to them that conflicts with their BP conditioning. So rather than educated themselves they look for the TL;DR footnote and then reflexively think, "Ha, they didn't think about X, Y and Z. Gotcha!" when in fact there are almost a decade of posts about exactly what they think hasn't been considered.

It's intellectual lethargy. So rather than consider TRP holistically they look for comfort in accepting the parts they can stomach and then sugar coating the Red Pill aspects they can't so as not to be too 'angry' or 'bitter'.

https://therationalmale.com/2015/11/10/the-purple-pill/

https://therationalmale.com/2015/05/12/the-dangers-of-the-red-pill/

https://therationalmale.com/2013/11/06/anger-management/

https://therationalmale.com/2016/12/19/the-awareness/

statface21 · 2017-01-15T23:44:48+00:00

"I can't even remember the last time I saw a career or financial post on this sub, or one that gives practical advice in regards to pursuing hobbies, financial independence, martial arts or forms of meditation, things that will not only make you a better person, but will make women, the type of women you WANT to attract all the more attracted to you."

theres a meditation post a few times a week, at minimum, for the last few months iirc. the other stuff i occasionally see, though i agree we not only need a bit more diversity, but that those traits are what really matter.

orange_juice007 · 2017-01-15T23:35:28+00:00

Thank you for this post. It's really irritating that almost everytime someone on TRP mentions there are quality girls out there, he gets shamed for being purple/blue pill and possibly downvoted.

88Will88 · 2017-01-16T00:52:48+00:00

This is not a red pill post. The mods should consider a stern warning to those who agree with it. TRP is an antidote to blue pill programming, the war on heterosexual men, the demonising of heterosexual male sexual desires, the gynocentric nature of modern society. What you are saying is that we are wrong and that APALT, there really are unicorns, love is not ONEitis, women are just like men.

No, they are NOT like men. That is what feminists and gender study majors say. Women are hypergamous, men are the true romantics, women divorce rape and gaslight, they branch swing, practice AF:BB and every other valid phrase we use here. This post is purple pill heresy and I hope u/Rollo-Tomassi can read this and write an essay on the bracket creep and rot which has set in here. The fact that this post is getting upvoted and those who are calling the post out for what it is are getting downvoted is a sign that the lunatics are running the asylum. Can a mod please speak up here and set these kids straight?

dib1500 · 2017-01-15T23:52:50+00:00

wait so can you help me out with the last quote about loving. Is it saying to not love but be rational? I think I'm missing the point.

Royalartist · 2017-01-15T23:59:33+00:00

Although I agree with your general premise that men and women are capable of equal qualities of good and evil we do exist in a society rather than a jungle. Morality and ethics have been overshadowed by the governmental institution of law which leans heavily in favor of women. This means that evil perpetrated by a man will be punished and therefore controlled by society. Evil perpetrated by a woman goes largely unchecked and unpunished so we men cannot treat women as equal to men. A contract, both business and social, with a man is enforced by society. A social contract as opposed to a business contract with a woman is not enforced. It is for this reason that women cannot be trusted. It is not a defect of women it is a defect of law. If the law favored men over women, as in Islam, men would behave, and do, just as badly as women in Western society. The problem is not biological or genetic it is cultural.

Dr_HoaxArthurWilmoth · 2017-01-15T20:50:34+00:00

I see AWALT thrown around here a lot, and it seems the meaning is often misconstrued. What AWALT really means is that all women have the POTENTIAL to be manipulative, to fall into hypergamy, to cheat and to abuse (be it physically, emotionally, or mentally).

But what would be more accurate is to say APALT as in All people are like that regardless of gender. All people, men and women, of all races, have the potential to be shity people. Even the best of us have shity qualities because we are humans. By our very nature, we are prone to mistakes and none of us are perfect.

Uses Gender, does not understand and attempts to manipulate AWALT term. Into the trash it goes, you don't belong here and you need to leave.

Title	Don't forget what the Red Pill actually is
Author	thoughtcandle
Upvotes	28
Comments	55
Date	January 15, 2017 7:44 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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