Expectations vs outcomes.

nicethingyoucanthave · 2013-05-10T17:59:49+00:00

they lost the opportunity to become mothers

I don't know of any woman who would let a little thing like not being married stop her from being a mother.

The opportunity they lost is to be a young, married mother with a doting husband and a happy home life. It really is a lovely ideal. I don't blame anyone for wanting it. But as the article says, they didn't take any deliberate action to get it.

Some time ago, perhaps motivated by too much alcohol, I made the mistake of talking about fight club. There's a woman my age who wants an LTR (at least) with me. I've said "no" in the past and left it at that, but this night I flat out told her that she spent her best, most attractive years, banging guys with wild abandon. She tells me her stories. I don't mind, and I don't judge. I learn a lot in fact.

But I pointed out that had she met me 10 years ago, even though I was the same guy I am now in the ways she claims are important - sane, honest, stable, in shape, a good guy - she would have turned me down. I believe I used the words, "you would have laughed at the idea of dating me" (she's hot even now but I've seen pics, and damn).

She chose the guys she chose, had lots of fun, but in the end didn't get from them the things that I would have given her - and in hindsight, she calls those guys jerks. But they're not really jerks, they're just the kind of guys who can get a girl like her, and those guys can also get a different girl just like her - an upgrade if you will. It's no more fair to call them jerks than it would be for me to call her a bitch. She made her decision and I have to respect it even if I don't like it - she has to respect their decision to upgrade even if she doesn't like it.

While I was boring, I got a graduate degree and a great career and saved up some money. Only in the last few years have I developed the skills to attract someone like her. And now she says, "wow let's get married!"

I tell her that I respect her choice to bang guys with wild abandon. But now I've decided to be the guy who gets banged with wild abandon. I would be happy to marry a 25 year old version of her, but not the current version. No thanks.

I then suggest that she date a guy about 45 years old.

It did not go over well. But it was more honesty than she's probably ever gotten in her life.

She can contact me again if she wants to, or not. I respect her choices, but she missed her opportunity. I will be there for her as a friend, I will be happy to be her lover, but she wasted her best years. These are my best years.

Kronouranos · 2013-05-10T17:19:21+00:00

The male view of this would be a young man believing his job is good enough for him to get happily married, therefore not focusing at all on his game in the present. So when his salary does finally woo a woman, he doesn't have game to get laid/actually attract/not get divorced and lose half his wealth.

Title	Expectations vs outcomes.
Author	redpillschool
Upvotes	18
Comments	7
Date	May 10, 2013 3:09 PM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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