[FR] Always escalate immediately.

Wyald · 2016-05-20T04:37:38+00:00

Recently I went out for two dates with a girl. On he second we went back to hers. I was pretty sure we were both down to be fwbs for the forseable future. Escalated to the point of heavy touching and kissing. She made a subtle hint she wanted me to fuck her. I held off because in my mind I "didn't want to ruin it" and if I showed chivalry it would increase my chances of it being more of a long term thing rather than a ONS. She kissed me passionately goodbye at the door. Got a text a few days later that she thinks I'm cool bit we should just be friends. In summary I'm pretty sure I should have fucked her hard and good and that would have increased the chances of it happening again. Too much beta white knight conditioning

Nugget_Muffins · 2016-05-20T03:14:31+00:00

So what would have been the answer to that shit test?

RPmatrix · 2016-05-20T05:45:37+00:00

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favours_of_the_moon · 2016-05-20T02:28:58+00:00

Actually says, 'you think I wanted to have sex with you?'

That's par for the course with a modern girl. Anyway, if you REALLY wanted her, you'd have hit it already. This is a good lesson for people. Don't be so goddamn desperate.

And if you pass one up, don't feel bad about it. You have standards, and it shows.

2Bait4Me · 2016-05-20T10:49:15+00:00

with LMR in the bedroom rather than through other forms of communication.

You dont deal with LMR is the bed room, In the bedroom it's high risk/reward. You lay the foundations before had.

Try Disqualifing when escalating to your house "I don't want you getting any idea's, We are just going to watch a movie/eat/music what ever, i'm not that type of guy", this then means if she brings it up later, you already have and it's part of your frame and it's easily killed it by saying "yeah I know, I said about it earlier, dont worry about it were just going to go do X ".

Also your default for any interaction with someone your interested should be the lay, and only if the logistics are against you, do you settle for the number.

RealMcGonzo · 2016-05-20T16:50:08+00:00

I know, but honestly I was so bored of her BS, I just hit the eject button; it turned me off completely.

Surely part of abundance mentality is the ability to not desperately grab any and all the snatch that drifts your way. Be grateful that you are not one of these "OMFG I had a chance to have sex and I blew it! I'll never have another chance again! I might as well throw myself off a bridge!" BPers.

unicorn-carousel · 2016-05-21T04:25:08+00:00

Missed a HOT one yesterday. Met her 2 days ago, she 3x texted me about our convo when she woke up, I called her back and we talked for about 10 minutes. Said she was free looking to find a place for a beer but didn't know where, suggesting kama sutra, coming over, etc... the morning after meeting her. Like. Like. How fucking dense am I? She wanted me to invite her over. I was on the phone for 10 minutes and missed hint after hint. Fuck. But I had something to do anyway. She's not read my last snap chat, 29 hours ago. Her phone was dying, she said (damn hot girls and their plausible deniability).

Anyway, if she wants me she'll come back. It's just as likely a trap to see if I call her first anyway though. She's HOTTTTTT. I'll try once on Sunday because the missed snap/phone story, but if she didn't just need to get fucked by somebody and already do it, she'll be back. If not, damn my opening game was strong, got a personal trophy. Used to momentum to open countless hot girls last night.

Edit: or maybe her knowing I had something to do was her way of testing me with all those suggestions and then ghosting... seeing if I'd take her bait to meet up instead of what I was going to do? I agreed to one beer if she was near, I'd been having one at lunch when I met her. But she was wishy washy so I said I wouldn't meet now but we talked for a while longer and she was suggesting all that. In any case, will call on Sunday in case she did legitimately miss me asking her to hang out. Gong to be sitting her with my dick in my hand and my phone plugged in until then, obviously :)

antariusz · 2016-05-21T05:14:25+00:00

Yep, she was probably ovulating, you missed your window.

Might as well just cut your losses and eject.

She either got laid by someone else or started her period. Most likely laid by someone else with more balls than you.

Stythe · 2016-05-21T15:05:31+00:00

I remember one date I had years ago. Herr and I went out, got along well, ended up back at her place making out. I went to take her shirt off and she backtracked. I backed off and we sat there as she showed me the vagina monologs and told how she was into feminism and all this jazz. Far from the only red flag she displayed, admittedly, but by far the biggest. I went to leave and she grabbed me to make out before I left. The next time we met up she said we should just be friends. I accepted at first, but we ended up at a comedy show where the comedian pointed us out as a couple to which she said "just friends" and when the comedian asked me why I wasn't fucking her, I didn't have an answer. I thought about that afterwards. It was the first time I'd felt conflicted about it and it was because we started out sexually and it went another way. I later send her a text telling her I wasn't interested in a friendship and reiterated what I just said and that I didn't have time for new friends at the moment (which was actually in response see to a comment she made about her never knowing when she'd be free because she's very busy.) Her response was to tell me that made she shallow and I was a jerk. I was in a van with some coworkers and I told them what happened when a lesbian I worked with snapped "she's full of shit and wanted to just keep you around or something. You're a busy dude who was being honest. SHE'S the one with the problem."

At the time I didn't really grasp any of it, but it all makes sense now. I look back and laugh at that. I wasn't sure why lesbias answer made sense to me at the time, but my guy knew she was right.

Amusingly, while I was out walking one night a year or so later I saw her at the crosswalk with some guy I guess she was on a date with. I saw her do a double take and I smirked and kept walking.

Il128 · 2016-05-20T16:04:01+00:00

If a woman doesn't fuck you on the first date she isn't in to you and she doesn't see you as alpha.

Title	[FR] Always escalate immediately.
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Date	May 20, 2016 2:25 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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