FR - First Attempt At A Plate. Shattered after clarifying expectations.

hamsterbator · 2015-03-26T16:03:03+00:00

Jesus man you write too much. Be aloof and mysterious. Refreshing to have such a frank conversation??? wtf man. You just submitted your orbiting plan to mission control.

Save it for your bros. Don't ever let her know what's truly going on in your head. Let her hamster wheel spin.

2/3rds rule is golden. You need to talk much much less. Save it for when you are in person when she is powerless to her tingles.

You basically let her antislut defense rationalize her way out of platedom.

You've already got it in once. Now take it as personal challenge / game to win her back.

yoyoz69 · 2015-03-26T16:09:09+00:00

First off, you were hanging out with this plate way to fucking much.

Keep it to once/twice a week, any more and you are inviting the feels.

You messed up again by having this conversation via text. Sure, it's not worth a huge investment but a phone call woulda went way better.

I laid in bed yesterday, and felt disappointed a bit hurt and annoyed but also kinda liberated and felt that the new and improving me is coping with all of this very calmly

Lastly, stop explaining yourself. You told her way too much, which leads me to believe you're still struggling internally with your choices and decisions - by being so open to her you in essence were trying to convince yourself? just what I got out of it, who knows.

This plate could still be spinning, but who gives a fuck. Plenty of other ones.

her: don't sugercoat shit. there are no hard feelings, you want sex right now, i want to be having sex with the right person. we have different backgrounds and think differently, it just is what it is.

Never make that decision for her.

hamsterbator · 2015-03-26T15:56:51+00:00

me: stop analyzing, we'll hang out, drink wine, watch some and have fun

This is the exact spot where you fucked up and opened pandoras box by biting on the beta bait

me: i'm attracted to you and think you're sexy, no point denying it

That is cringe worthy to read; it's something that a beta orbiter would say and you know better

me: if you are not attracted to me in that way, or you feel bad, used or wronged after we make love we should nip it at the bud

You continue to dig yourself deeper and deeper

Next time text for logistics and don't chomp on the beta bait:

her: 7:45?

her: remember were actually going to watch a movie (we joked that I always say that but we end up having sex and talking for hours) (after I haven't replied for an hour) her: haha i take it that wasn't what you had in mind

You: see you at 7:45

BrunoOh · 2015-03-26T16:26:59+00:00

"Okay. Think about it and let me know" and go NC.

Marooned-no-more · 2015-03-26T16:36:20+00:00

Text for logistics, phone call for anything more.

Don't ask, tell.

jb_trp · 2015-03-26T16:08:49+00:00

Use less words, but you know this. Have you been hitting the gym? If you're SMV is high enough you can be more direct about just wanting a sexual relationship and she'd probably go along with it. You need to be cut out of iron though.

I imagine your SMV and her SMV are about the same? She probably enjoyed hooking up with you until she got bored or found another branch to swing to. Remember, she doesn't belong to you. It was just your turn.

Go no contact. Soft next. If she reaches out to you, hook up with her. But I'm guessing she'll fall off the face of the earth (see: Briffault's Law).

nemaxofredpill · 2015-03-26T16:43:35+00:00

Dude. You know you fucked up. Don't do it again.

Stop being ashamed for wanting sex. Women shame betas for wanting sex. You are not a beta. You are an alpha that wants to fuck women and if that women isn't into you, then move on.

|her: haha i take it that wasn't what you had in mind

You: Nope. Planned on bringing a couple whips, sex candles, and a midget. See you at 7:45.

MyReddit4 · 2015-03-26T17:07:55+00:00

Agree with all the other posters. Whenever a girl seems "like a player herself" or isn't into monogamy = HUGE slut tell. In my experience, these girls are not only fun in bed, but despite their promiscuitiy, are amazingly quick to go serial-monogamous-plate-mode for the right dude

They'll also be more understanding when the right dude is sleeping with other girls. (All girls get jelly, remember?)

It's important to note what another poster pointed out - this was NOT you being direct or open. It was hard to get through - why on earth are you texting a girl you just met this much about anything?

You dropped the ball on the VERY FIRST TEXT "should I come around 6"

Be the one to make the plans. If she doesn't respond or suggests another time - these kind of girls respond especially well to just straight up rude, commanding text game. Think fat kid on the playground.

A good bailout text when a girl doesn't respond is: "made other plans. sorry u were too shy to.....blank" (blank - hang, text back, etc) followed by radio silence. Can't have a butthurt frame to do this.

her: "we're actually going to watch a movie... I take it that wasn't what you had in mind?" you: Sounds about right you: me+you+titanic directors cut you: define "actually" you: Oh right, what were u thinking of

Personally, I can't believe she kept responding to your texts. She must've either been really into you off the bat and was giving you chances to stop fucking up, or just toying with you for attention/amusement.

Choose wisely, hope this helps.

[deleted] · 2015-03-26T17:46:14+00:00

Unless the "her" and "me" got mixed up.....I'm really confused.

You wanted to plate her, but then dumped her because you told her you wanted something more than just sex?

Others have pointed out where you went full on beta and lost her...she actually said some pretty red pill things at a few points. She acknowledged that she knows most guys find her attractive, ergo, telling her how attractive she is just puts you in that category.

Women don't want to be told they are attractive by men. That's what their girlfriends and betas tell them and they know its almost 90% bullshit every time. They still like hearing it, though....just not from Men except at certain times (when she just got dolled up or she's a messy disaster after being fucked).

Women want to FEELZ attractive while you're touching them all over and railing them because you can't get enough of her.

I also noticed her little "Everyone wants to ruin what's cute." line.

Response should be "No, sweetie....cute little things want to be ruined."

Title	FR - First Attempt At A Plate. Shattered after clarifying expectations.
Author	improvy
Upvotes	3
Comments	25
Date	March 26, 2015 3:49 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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