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[–]ImamMahdi34 points35 points36 points 9 years ago* (25 children) | Copy Link
If there's one thing i've learned in my observations and experiences...is that boyfriend/girlfriend relationships are an absolute joke and just for having a fuck buddy, as 99.9999% of them don't evolve into marriage (or anything else really) and the 'love' is just a fake front to justify the sex, and it dies off within a year or 2, maybe a little more. Marriage used to be something to me like 10 years ago, but now growing up, even marriage seems like a joke, because men and women are cheating on their 'loved' ones so much.
For all we know, she was just feeding you and the others complete bullshit and lies, and things she has made herself believe about her 'boyfriends' and maybe she's talking about her ex-boyfriends and doesn't even have one right now.
I guess, you got the shit tests of shit tests, not one shit test, but maybe a big shit test compromised of small shit tests, compiled into one big shit test story about her 'boyfriend'. Clearly she tells this same bullshit to others.
What are you going to do, since you're an LTR? This woman is a woman i would never ever think about dating or LTR or marriage, purely for sex and 'sparring practice' as you call it hahahah
EDIT: i laugh inside (sometimes outside) when people (male or female) talk about how they are so much in love with their girlfriend/boyfriend.....when really, many of them have had 5 'relationships' by the time they are 25.....(just a number to illustrate my point), and meaning 5 times they have been in 'love', where they tell others they'll be with this person forever.....it just sounds so fake to me and they believe their own bullshit, like they are in some fantasy la la land.....relationships have very little to do with love, past the honey-moon or the first year or two, after which the initial 'infatuation' and 'love' starts to fall off, which is when you really have to put in effort to maintain the relationship, and that's when most of these boyfriend/girlfriend relationships fall apart, because nobody wants to put in that effort or hard work, especially not women
[–]aanarchist19 points20 points21 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
most bf/gf relations are just placeholders and mutual enablers. never call yourself a woman's boyfriend, you are either her owner or she is using you.
[–]tko00 points points points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
This right here. The term boy"friend" is pretty misleading.
[–]aanarchist14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
it's pretty straightforward if we're being honest.
[–]godfatherchimp points points points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
What if my girlfriend calls me "my man" on social media. "My man and I did this..." etc.
[–]aanarchist0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
well you gotta have a socially acceptable title in public after all, lol
[–]10334212 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
This might sound a little autistic, but quite honestly, the idea of "dating" is pretty retarded. Our ancestors were right when they only "gave" their daughter away for marriage, because for women after a certain amout of failed relationships she is completely damaged for life.
Its hilarious really. After the first 2~4 relationships a girl has (and she has those FAST nowadays) she isn't going to be her best for the fifth or sixth guy, she is going to accumulate baggage and traumas, trust less, besides not being a virgin anymore and the chance of having STDs.
Add to that the chance that she might date a guy for years and years and when she gets older the guy might not want to get married. You can basically take a girl's best years without promise of ANYTHING and then move on to a younger girl.
If I'm going to spend my time building a family I want the full package and little reason to feel insecure, otherwise I'm not getting married at all.
[–]DesignerTom7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Interesting. From my experience (2 relationships), I learn a lot from each and I think I would improve going into each subsequent one.
[–]103342-1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You improve for yourself, but not necessarily for your next partner.
A classic example: A girl has a first boyfriend and loses her virginity with him quickly and he leaves her, she feels used and for the next boyfriend she decides to wait a little longer.
She improved her mindset, but the next boyfriend is going to pay the price.
[–]1empatheticapathetic10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There was a great thread about this recently about how the women settling for the beta doesn't want to 'try' anymore because she's tried so much with all her previous partners. And the beta hates her for it because this is his first.
[–]DesignerTom2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I understand but some things are done which improve the relationship for example if in past relationships you had big arguments and got very angry and saw how it did not work to be that aggressive and then you learn from this and in the next relationship. Something's will improve for the next guy, some things will be worse.
[–]1empatheticapathetic6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
All that happens for women is they learn how to be more manipulative. Morals are for men.
[–]acetylcysteine0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So you're assuming her take home message from the first relationship is "I'm going to make my next boyfriend wait longer for sex," when just as equally it may be, "I'm not going to get into a relationship unless I know the person wants me for more than sex."
It really depends on the person and how they learn from mistakes.
[–]ImamMahdi6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
I agree man. the idea of dating and these petty relationships is just dumb. This is what I posted in another comment why Europeans laugh at americans, the culture here is so stuck up about sex. Sex was never looked upon as something so desirable until this bullshit culture here erupted. Sex is worshipped here...but over there in asian and european countries, sex is just 'meh', nobody is glorifying it. And this glorifying of sex and 'pussy', is what gave all these women this illusion of 'power' over men....and the men here need to break free from that.
We all need and want sex, so just have it. We need to stop hiding behind these 'fake' relationships and 'dating' and 'love' to justify it to others or to ourselves.
And some guy listed some good criteria for marriage in another thread, it was something like:
1) girl should be young (18 preferably, unless you are like 50 lol)
2) girl should be a virgin
3) her mother/father should have a traditional relationship (the father should be running the house)
there were some other points..i can't remember. But if I get married, i'm definitely going to marry a virgin, and a young girl who's inexperienced. you increase your chances for loyalty from her and submissiveness, etc, by A LOT. And hopefully those traits carry over for the next 10 years, by the time she's hitting the "wall" and will probably stick around till the end.
[–]1033428 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
One of the problems is that men got used to be treated like shit and to get into a bad deal without complaining. Look at TRP for example, they are used to get absurd shit-tests from women way below their looks level. Accept dating girls that talk about ex's, that are known to be slutty, etc.
I'm not THAT tolerant, I would rather spend my entire life fucking sluts and being single and alone than dating a girl that doesn't fill my entire list of absurd requirements.
If you want to get married you HAVE to have your wife's best years, you HAVE to have her best if you intend on spending the rest of your life with her, or at least enough time to raise children. This is how I think, and if I don't get this deal in my own terms, I can live another way.
[–]TrumpRules2016 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Exactly, you nailed it. It's funny because you talk about sluts and this chick I fucked recently talked about how "guys dating women who have had sex with a bunch of different guys before them, are lucky because they will get a more experienced woman."
I wanted to laugh so hard when she said that or something like that. I just don't get relationships. I am 25 and have had some ongoing fuck buddies, but never a girlfriend. People are shocked when they hear that, but I don't even want marriage, so I'm fine focusing on making money and occasionally getting sex.
I also know girls who have had lots of one night stands who are terrible at sex. Just because you've had a lot of random one night stand partners doesn't mean you're good at it.
[–]bznj 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
what you and u/ImamMahdi just said was very helpful. Great posts guys
[–]foot_odor1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank God I see you and u/ImamMahdi expressing this rare point of view here. My similar stand may come from my religious upbringing, but I as well can't see this whole dating and boyfriend/girlfriend phenomenon as something else than a giant hypocrite and ridiculous show. Tinder represents this perfectly. Prepare yourselves for the burst of this societal bubble in the next decade, in the same way of a financial crash.
[–]ImamMahdi0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
by best years you mean the younger years right?Like 18-30? or did you mean something else.
[–]cx69 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This is what I posted in another comment why Europeans laugh at americans, the culture here is so stuck up about sex
Where do you get your information man, people in europe and in nordic countries have the most sex of all.
When it comes to marriage, being with girls of former betas is also a good choice. Often inexperienced lovers, unsatisfied and usually easily manipulated & submissive.
[–]ImamMahdi0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
that's what i meant, sorry i wasn't clear enough. European people have a lot of sex and it's not overrated to them, they are very open about it. Here in canada/US, sex is idolized like it's the most important thing in life, and that's why the men are losing, we have been made to believe that sex(pussy) is the ultimate goal.
True that man. I look at most marriages and think to myself "What purpose do you both get from being commited to each other?" The old days are long gone but it's evolution. Things change and we need to adapt to it.
This did cross my mind.I didn't get suckered in to the whole 'boyfriend' story. I just brushed it off and didn't enter into her frame. Most guys would have became defensive and played nurse.
My colleague made it clear, she had went down this path before. Many times.
I wouldn't cheat, even though i'm instigating dread and soft nexting my LTR. Although this girl has the vibe of being good in the sack. I reckon i will plate her for the time being, to improve my abundance mentality but i'm not ure accepting her social media request is the wisest move.
Haha you got to spar, before you can box!
[–]ImamMahdi2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well yeah you can delay accepting her social media request, that would probably bother her, and probably tempt her into asking or saying "I added you on ----- btw"
Does she know about your LTR? if things are good with your LTR, then don't fuck it up with this girl, she clearly isn't worth it, even if to expand abundance mentality or if she's a good lay.
[–]ThirstyBetaMale points points points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Do you think that you working out more has contributed to the increased attention? You briefly mentioned it in beginning but I was hoping you could expand a little. Where were you physically last year? Where are you now?(Bf/weight)
[–]Guerilla__Warfare points points points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
This is a good example of how you plate when you are married and want to keep it monogamous. Just the way she did OP.
[–]TeflonDon30004 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
There's just a constant stream of these horseshit posts about fucking nothing.
No insight, no expressed ideas, just a useless story about a moment the girl forgot about as soon as it ended.
Did she suck your dick in the office broom closet? Oh no? Fuck off. You wanna read about true sluts? Visit sluttyconfessions sub
Girls flirt, it's what they do constantly. They love attention, they love sexuality, and they'll get it where ever and whenever they can. She has a boyfriend, and she flirts with you to string YOU along, while still banging him. She knows that if she shuts you down hard with the BF angle that you'll stop the non-stop attention spigot you throw at her in hopes of one day blowing warm air across her clit.
I don't know what's worse, complaining about hypergamy, or this absurd idea that marriage to an 18 year old virgin is right around the corner for any RP guy. You're never gonna meet a virgin, grow up. Women have issues and insecurities, just like you. You're not a bastion of perfection, and expecting to get an 18 year old RPW virgin is just as absurd as women thinking they deserve Christian Grey.
Flirtation is fun and ubiquitous once you become an attractive RP man. It becomes you're mode of communication with women. If every flirtation I had was a hope for sex, I'd be constantly disappointed. It's try-hard and gross. Grab your balls and realize most girls who flirt with you don't want to actually fuck you, but only like the idea of fucking you, and until you actually fuck them, don't post horseshit to try to humble brag.
TRP is going to hell quickly.
[–]spinalmemes2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep. This post SUCKED. Im ashamed to even be in this sub anymore. Thanks OP. Next time keep your cringey shitty flirting out of the post, and maybe post something with sustenance. God damn sounded like a 14 year old wrote this shit after a week of TRP.
[–]evergonitenitenigga0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
only comment in this thread that makes sense. jesus christ
[–]fflando3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is a trip to HR waiting to happen even if you do hit it
[–]idontknowofficer points points points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Same thing at my work. This Muslim hijab wearing girl started work here a month ago, I started flirting with her and talking about her ass, inviting her to my place and doing stuff to her and all she did was blush and act like she didn't wanna hear any of that.
She didn't tell me about her boyfriend till about a week after when it was apparent that I was just horsing around and wasn't gonna seriously pursue her. Now she has two other guys interested in her in the brewery that she tells me about and she hasn't told either of them there's a boyfriend in the picture. She's just stringing them along and loving the attention. Lastly during lunch one time I flat out told her that she'll get taken away easily from her boyfriend if a better funner guy came along to which she responded that she knows she's not really crazy about him.
Fellas this is a virgin, hijab wearing girl acting out textbook awalt. Awalt is a natural law of the universe. And she isn't the only girl with a boyfriend I've flirted with and who's wanted me too in the last 3 months there's been 4 of then. Once you're a step up to their boyfriend, he's dead meat, fuck all that love shit.
[–]tafkapw6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If she has a boyfriend and strings guys along the hijab is just cosmetic for her. She probably posts hijab selfies on instagram or some shit.
[–]scamper_223 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
It always cracks me up how western people view islam. I was raised overseas in a muslim culture.
Pardon my anti-colonial mindset, but the west just romantasizes or demonizes muslims. Why would you think that hijabi is different from any other girl? You go to saudi and so many women are in niqab. You think theyre all holy?
You see a guy with a beard you think hes religious?
Honestly there was more casual sex happening back home than when i came here. I theorize this... Because being seen i public with a guy can be scandalous for reputation reasons... What else do u think people do? They fck.
Heck my cousins were 'servicing' older ladies who never got married.
Ive fcked hijabis. My uncles told stories of fcking niqabis. Hey the prostitutes even wear niqab.
All the same.
[–]1empatheticapathetic1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you invited her round would she have come? As you said she's just stringing along the other guys.
[–]BarrytheBacon5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Lmao a muslim working at a brewery now thats a real test of faith!
[–]foot_odor0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This and having a "boyfriend" shows that Islam is not totally internalized in this kind of woman as average people would think.
[–]Daddie02 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sending a 2x4 across your heads. WTF are you doing talking to women like this that you work with? Does sexual harassment ring a bell?
If it's your livelihood / good job / good stepping stone, it is incredibly stupid to be doing this.
[–]blackedoutfast2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
what's the point of this? unless you are fucking her none of this means anything. women flirt. women looking to cheat flirt. women who are absolutely loyal to their boyfriends flirt. lesbian women flirt. women flirt with coworkers. women flirt with men even when there is zero chance she would ever fuck him. women flirt for attention. women flirt to feel better about themselves. women flirt to attract orbiters. women flirt to pull guys into the friendzone. women flirt to get a "work husband" that will do their work for them. women flirt to pass the time at their boring jobs.
you think you're playing her (so much that you had to post about it) but in reality she's playing you.
finally. another one who speaks and knows that truth. the top voted comments are fucking dumb circle jerk bullshit that this sub is suffering from
[–]spinalmemes11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Cool you flirted with a co worker, and it was pretty cringey reading it tbh. Don't know why this needed to be posted lol
[–]ClungeCreeper3212 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
No idea how someone could read through that without cringing to be honest. Wonder what age the people commenting are
[–]spinalmemes0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Same. I had to stop. I dont know why any of these people try to brag about what they said when flirting. Its the most cringey thing i see on this sub. Maybe it was good when you were doing it but most of that doesnt transfer to text. Just makes u sounf like a huge douche.
[–]ClungeCreeper3211 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Weow deleted, I guess the mods wised up
[–]underdestruction2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah seems fake as shit too.
[–]thebeginer 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You are putting commas where they don't need to be.
I didn't,realise that,it would trigger, you.
[–]Castleprince12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He's not triggered. He's helping you understand proper grammar. Grow up.
some girls are just dumb and will say shit like that. this could be just boredom at work on her part and attention whoring, seeing how far she can go but won't really do anything. in my experience she's that type. until she sucked your dick and/or let you fuck her, this ain't shit. you sound like someone who has finally figured out what hypergamy really is like but has got no clue. at all. get back to us when you finally hit it. btw the top voted comments are nothing but a fucking circle jerk. this sub has gone into shit for a fucking while now. jesus.
[–]redditaccount410 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
My sense is that the hypergamy is only this blatant with less than intelligent women. The ones with brains are more subtle, coming across as less desperate to cheat. They don't let every fit guy in the office know their intentions. Frankly, I don't care about examples involving dumb people.
[–]spinalmemes0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women flirting with a co worker isnt hypergamy. This whole post is off base and retarded. OP obviously realized that and deleted it
[–]verify_account points points points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Her:"You must have webbed feet if you come from there?" Me: Yeah, I do. They are the sexiest webbed feet on this side of the world. You should visit my website." Her:"Whats your website?" Me: " (insert name)'s webbed dreams.com. I upload videos too."
Ha, that was good. I will use some variation of that in the future.
[–]ClungeCreeper3212 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Please tell me you're joking
[–]needadviceman1 -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That was a good one man. I had a similar experiance but end of the day we ended up making out. Then later that week bitch accused me of forcefully kissing and hugging her.
[–]1ozaku7-2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It could very well be that her BF isn't dicking her at all, or dicking her like a prince instead of like a beast. But hey, never listen to what a woman says, but to what a woman does.
This is what happens when you are that serious boring boyfriend that dicks his GF like it's a princess.
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