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Fuck Your Echo Chamber

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May 10, 2015
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Title Fuck Your Echo Chamber
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Upvotes 23
Comments 27
Date May 10, 2015 1:02 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/35hk65/fuck_your_echo_chamber/
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[–]abdada 11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The majority of reddit is composed of lonely horny angry obese neckbeards. Only a tiny percentage change that by going TRP.

I agree on all the points you made, but to find a diamond we need to dig through a ton of shit.

[–]IceBunz 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not even everyone who goes to The Red Pill really change or read the sidebar or posts, they come here and "yeah I agree man fuck womyn!" and "yeah I think this subreddit really understands me I'm in a group now, cool!" and then they go back to playing video games or some shit

[–][deleted] 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]abdada 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Soon enough. I bought a new house and close this week so the next month is dealing with contractors and crap. Once I'm actually living again I will finalize my (free) e-book and throw it into the wild for others to share.

[–]csehszlovakze8 points 11 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

I'll add another one: looks do/don't matter. Endless hamstering on both sides, infinite debates about what part of it even matters etc. Who the fuck cares, anyway? If you're only losing weight and getting ripped to pull sluts you're doing it wrong anyway because if you had enough or get a huge blow you'll revert back in a few months. Lose that fucking weight because it's unhealthy, lift because it feels good. Don't let dem bitches define your life, they're just random enjoyment sources in your life.

[–]laere 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This right here. Also deadlifting feels better than sex. If you think otherwise, you're gay.

[–]rpquest 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is how you rant at TRP.

[–]BurgundyCarpet 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is next level. Usually we rant against other stuff but RedPope is ranting about TRP itself.

I agree with your points RedPope, but I will admit that seeing the subscriber count grow is cool to me

[–]exoduslife 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't give a fuck about false rape accusations, and you shouldn't either.

Yeah; if you read all the "cover you ass each time you have sex or she is going to run to police and cry rape" posts you'll start to believe them and get a big fat rubbery one each time you are about to have sex with a woman. As OP says, don't shit where you eat if you are worried about this.

[–]Totsean 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree, I do come and read stuff, but it's mostly to see if something has changed. I do prefer testing whatever I learn on TRP IRL, it's pretty fun since I suck at things :)

[–]iamjacksnipples 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Great points. I usually see these types of articles here regarding false rape and I just chalk it up to those less experienced brothers and think a manosphere topic. But something like that has never happened to me and these articles do me no good. I don't have to worry about that kind of thing ever, and I never have. I can spot those women a mile away. So maybe I'll take a six that will gobble me all night instead of an 8 that I have to put on a mask and pretend to be something other than myself just to get laid.

Trp reinforced ideas floating around in my head already. It was exactly like the metaphor. But, like the metaphor, I was already looking. I didn't stumble upon. Really, it is the truthful field reports and slight and humble revelations by others regarding their awakening that I look for.

In a post some time ago the sub was compared to a salad bar, take what you like.

I do however acknowledge that I am not at the same age level or experience as those looking to read those articles so my filter weeds those out.

[–]iamjacksnipples 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

....and it's gone. Hope the comments stay up as a reminder that not all rule breakers are wrong. Go go power mods.

[–]Code_Bordeauxx 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Good points. Don't agree with your stance on the declining birth rates. Fuck racial arguments, but the impact on the economy and wealth of the western world is gonna be huge by all expectations. Big change you're a taxpayer. Increasingly fewer of those, and increasingly more elderly. That's something to be aware of. How relevant that is to this sub is a different matter.

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[–]Code_Bordeauxx 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You are aware that your post got removed right?

[–]Code_Bordeauxx 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And I agree, not worth losing sleep over. Useful information though for decisions involving real estate, retirement and other major economic influences in your life.

[–]Hitleronormative2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

|So for the love of God, stop trying to tie TRP to your bullshit political ideology.

So much this. There is an enormous chasm between women wanting your paycheck and a communist revolution. Just stop with the politics already.

[–]onepill_twopill 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

To the first point: the number of subscribers DOES give a good indication of proper Red Pillers out there in proportion to the rest of the world, because in each of the subs, many will only be the smiling nodders as well, who just agree and then do nothing.

[–]TagaKnight 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're right man. I've noticed that very few posts these days have some vital piece of information in regards to improving our lives.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Red Pill is very Individualistic.

This I say with strong conviction because it's the main division between it and Reaction like /r/DarkEnlightenment.

Being Fertility Negative is a powerful theme that both Red Pill and Feminism share. It's the single point of commonality between radically different philosophies. Feminists want to get fucked by Alpha males and neither want to reproduce. I started calling it the Infertile Alpha which probably annoys some, but it quickly paints an honest picture of what is happening.

Natural Hierarchy is the connection to humanity through your DNA which begins with your immediate family and extends to your closest genetic kin. Altruism works as a destructive meme against Natural Hierarchy.

Red Pill and Natural Hierarchy merge in the Red Pill LTR where Alpha men master the ability to be family men by maintaining Frame at all times. That's were you pass on your DNA while not being Beta in the process. (which is traditional masculinity)

[–]Senior ContributorRedPope 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't know how to reply to you anymore.

All you do is regurgitate a mixture of the same keywords and sentences. Feels like talking to a madlibs bot.

[–]Nantafiria 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

For someone who says he doesn't care about a ton of things, you're sure as hellwriting a lot about them and explaining your point of view a lot.

[–]Senior ContributorRedPope 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I care about TRP. This forum and the men here helped me. They reinforced some things I knew, and taught me some things I didn't. I want to see TRP continue, so I contribute when I feel I have something to offer. Sometimes that can be as simple as calling bullshit on bullshit ideas. Other times it takes a lengthier explanation. Yes, I have a strong point of view. If you think I'm wrong, nothing is stopping you from posting a counter argument.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I sense you have a lower degree of empathy towards others.And that's fine.You'll find yourself with different goals.

I strive to make the world a better place, to reduce suffering so I do care about these issues.
If one man ends up with his entire life ruined, spending it in jail and humiliation because some slut decided she had second-thoughts after the act I will feel his pain.As if I ended up there with him.

If one of us suffers unjustly, we all suffer.That's my ideology.
I feel compelled to stand up and change the world in the ways I can. Everyone one of us finds happiness in their own ways.
My way is fine, so is yours.
You don't have to look down on others though, for negative feelings bring you nothing.

[–]BurgundyCarpet 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

You're probably gonna get shat on but I feel pretty similar to you. However, I have drawn different conclusions about how to proceed.

I strive to make the world a better place, to reduce suffering

I too strive to make the world a better place, but I do not believe that reducing suffering is an effective method of creating that better place.

NGOs reduce suffering when they send rice to Haiti, yet they also cripple economies by making whole populations dependent on NGO-supplied charity rice. Therefore, "reducing suffering" is an overly-simplistic (and frankly inaccurate) way to describe the best methods of making the world a better place.

Let's just keep it simple then. "Ending suffering" is illogical so let's not even go there. Let's just focus on improving the world, which is something you and I both want to do.

How can we improve the world? I don't know any better than you, but here are a few thoughts.

Helping any one individual is thinly-veiled egotism. That's some woman shit: giving money to a homeless guy without realizing that she just provided him an incentive to stay homeless. Helping people one-by-one is inefficient and ineffective. It's only for people who want to put on a show of "Altruism Theater."

Systematic problems require systematic solutions. It is only through changing systems that we could potentially help people living in poverty etc. Helping people individually takes away time we could be spending developing these solutions.

I think the best way to improve life systematically is to create new technology. I have a very Peter-Thiel-esque viewpoint on the matter.

Think about the LifeStraw. Let's say it took 10,000 hours to develop and bring to market — the positive effects that it has had have been many orders of magnitude greater than the effects you could have created if you spent 10,000 hours helping people individually.

Basically, I'm advocating a systematic and macro approach to improving the world. I'd also like to stay away from abstract, quasi-religious concepts like "helping the environment," that mission is too vague to be practical.

The main psychological problem of world-improvement is huge: People don't want to be helped. Being helped is insulting. Yet they still need help.

The solution is to create scenarios in which they can help themselves. Look up Paul Polack, he's an incredibly inspiring man and a personal hero of mine.

"God helps those who help themselves." -Jack LaLanne

I think if we focus on systematically creating scenarios that enable people to self-improve, then we will be the chillest fucking dudes to ever stride across the surface of the earth

EDIT:

From Wikipedia: "Paul is a mentor of the The Girl Effect Accelerator, a two-week business accelerator program that aims to scale startups in emerging markets that are best positioned to impact millions of girls in poverty."

THAT is real fucking feminism. THAT is helping women. A systematic, logical approach to improving the lives of those who need it most. FUCK western feminism and their bullshit Anita Sarkeesian victimhood-profiteering racket.

You haven't heard of Paul before? That's because he just fucking helps people without shrieking to get attention.

"Those who know, don't say. Those who say, don't know." -Buddha

Paul Polack fucking KNOWS.

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[–]OldGearJammer 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Are you fucking retarded? Thats the stupidest most unlikely piece of bullshit I've ever read on this site

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