"Good girl" shit test on first date

neXianXavia · 2013-07-14T09:06:42+00:00

Are you blind? You didn't pass the shit test, you FAILED IT.

Why? Because you SUBMITTED. She's not dumb. She knows you wanted sex, and she knows you didn't have the balls to up and take it.

This shit test is ingenious in the fact that EITHER WAY SHE GETS SOME KIND OF COMPANIONSHIP.

If you'd said "Good girl? You can still suck my dick like a good girl." She probably still would have gone home with you because SHE PUT IN THE EFFORT TO SHIT TEST YOU. That means she is interested in you one way or another.

By being and idiot and replying with the very beta "Ok, cool." You, sir have put yourself in the friend zone, or worse the "Beta buyer" zone. She's texting you lovey dovey shit to keep you interested, and for her emotional validation.

She's been sitting next to you in class because you're a safe provider. Alpha fucks, beta bucks, and you got the short end of the straw.

And if you had gone for sex and she'd refused? You're better than that and there's plenty of poon out there for you. More than likely this attitude would have brought her back to you.

2013-07-14T13:57:49+00:00

First of all, lose the faghawk. Second, don't waste your time with a girl that has tattoos of her ex's names.

Clauderoughly · 2013-07-14T13:58:32+00:00

So she got a free meal, delicious beta attention, and you go blue balled.

You failed all the basics.

Ignore this girl, hit the gym and start reading and absorbing all the stuff in the sidebar.

RiseAboveIt · 2013-07-14T12:18:13+00:00

This is a troll guys, seriously.

project2501a · 2013-07-14T11:08:55+00:00

After I pick up the check

shit-test failed.

30303030303030 · 2013-07-14T10:58:26+00:00

she hands me her phone number and says text me

should be the other way around

I said dinner, but she said she can't come out too late

obviously, and you complied

Fast forward to lunch, she starts talking about how she used to date "gangsters" and how she's ready now for somebody normal

oh dear...

She also mentioned that she's a freak in the bed and told me about how she tried a lot of things in bed

solid first date fuck, she's no good though, talking about her previous fucks from a get go. "Good girl" indeed. Also, while we are at it, there are no "good girls".

After I pick up the check

No, no, no. Never with sluts like this.

she seems very happy and says how nice I am for paying for her and her previous bfs never did that and they never held the door for her like I did

the "gangsters" that actually fucked her?

She says "No, I don't go to guys houses like that, I'm a good girl."

she said exactly opposite at the table though but you know this. Your answer "oh it's ok, we just gonna hang out and have few drinks, I have something interesting to show you". One step at the time but one step closer to sex. You want to get her inside and for now that's it. And you failed without any fight at all.

I mean this is a girl with a tramp stamp and has 2 other tatoos of 2 different guys' names, who just a few minutes ago was talking about how she likes being tied up and handcuffed.

true

She says she likes to wait a few months before she has sex with somebody

so she has at least one "gangster" on a call

Now she's been sitting next to me in class everytime!!

good, tease her a little but don't give her much attention, enough to keep the hook in and spike her interest

I try to turn the conversation sexual again, she's gonnna give me the "only in it for sex" line again

"No, not only" or "What's wrong with sex?". Don't explain yourself.

so what should I do next besides hit the gym ? lol

text her you want to hang out at your place and she should bring a bottle

Shit_Lordstrom · 2013-07-14T09:20:41+00:00

At some point she's realized that she's not attracting high SMV guys (bad boy != Alpha/high SMV) and wants to do something about it. It sounds like she's trying to convince herself (through you) that she's past those days. It's one thing to say it, but to believe it she has to see it with her own eyes. If what I am thinking is right, she would have used past tense when described her bed habits.

Sitting next to you every class, I'd hazard a guess that she's never really been 'courted' before and is trying to give you an opportunity to do so. You will bed her, but not after some effort. The normal TRP 'take it or leave it' approach won't work here because she has something to prove to herself.

If you do bed her while things are where they're at now, she'll more than likely want a short relationship. Your position in this relationship would not be favourable.

In my opinion you should leave this one alone for now, let her find some other guy to validate her new found purity. Once she's convinced herself that she's not bad because of that one fling that was actually a nice guy, normal habits should resume.

James_Coook · 2013-07-14T15:20:55+00:00

Wow she fucked those gangsters quickly without having the door held for her or her meals paid for. But she wants you to wait because all of a sudden she is a good girl!

AlphaPill · 2013-07-14T12:29:00+00:00

Her: "What do you like most about me?" You: "Can't say, haven't seen enough of you yet."

Her: Sits next to you every day in class. You: Don't let it happen every day. Sit next to other people every so often.

Her: "You're only in it for sex." You: "Are you bad in bed or something?" Note: She'll most likely act slightly shocked and offended while defiantly saying "no!". Maybe she'll follow it up with a "why, are you?". Hell, if she has a bit extra hamster juice laying around she might even try to shame you for asking the question. Either way, she's reacting to you now instead of the other way around. If she says "no" then tell her you'll need verification and if she says "that's an inappropriate question" say "so is calling me shallow and a sexoholic, maybe you should apologize".

Whatever, hopefully you see the underlying patterns because once you do you can basically say anything with the right attitude and she won't be able to suck you into the vortex.

Also, you can string some of this shit together. For example, she keeps saying your a nice guy but then also that you're only in it for sex. Just let the hamster run into the shit test and watch the fun. If she's accusing you of only wanting sex then drop the bitch shield by reminding her that she thinks you're the nice guy and she's trying to friendzone you with this nice guy shit just remind her that you can't be the nice guy because you're only there for the sex.

Finally, re-work the phrasing a bit from "you're only in it for sex" to "you're only there for the sex" because that phrasing implies it is already occurring instead of a goal you are seeking and failing to achieve. So if she doesn't drop the idea all together she'll at least start saying "you're only with me for the sex" then you can say "sounds good, come over tonight so I won't leave tomorrow" or some shit like that.

Good luck!

Bro_Quest · 2013-07-14T14:11:48+00:00

She first said she fucked gangsters.

Then she said she's a good girl.

And you believed her?

2013-07-14T14:40:46+00:00

After I pick up the check

mistake 1

she seems very happy and says how nice I am for paying

verbal cue that you have failed

I just smiled and said "oh, okay."

mistake 2, you should have told her good girls do as they are told and driven her back to yours anyway.

I mean this is a girl with a tramp stamp and has 2 other tatoos of 2 different guys' names, who just a few minutes ago was talking about how she likes being tied up and handcuffed.

failed for reasons you have even stated yourself.

I asked her in class what she meant by "good girl"

mistake 3

She says she likes to wait a few months before she has sex with somebody

Further proof of mistake 1, also a total lie.

Now she's been sitting next to me in class everytime!!

SITTING IN CLASS NOT HAVING SEX WITH YOU.

What you should do next is:

tell her she's paying for the next date
if she brings up the "only for sex" line after you make it clear you want sex, tell her she can do your laundry as well or some other quip about sex + some service.
Don't sit next to her in class, go and sit next to any other pretty girl and talk to her instead
stop cock blocking yourself when she hands you opportunities on a plate.

MrHocus · 2013-07-14T17:26:36+00:00

I mean this is a girl with a tramp stamp and has 2 other tatoos of 2 different guys' names...

Red flag, you're an idiot if you let this girl hurt you. I want to follow up by saying her sexual desires are not red flags by themselves but combined with the other things I would say she is trying to manipulate you.

Here's my thought:
1) She started off by being the aggressor and you played it well, securing a date etc (Good)
2) She talked about her exes and how wild she is (Bad)
3) She has a VERY VERY poor choice of tattoos that I see as a complete red flag (Bad)
4) She openly talks about sex but when you make an attempt to escalate the situation (after doing a pretty good job conversing with her etc.) she balks and backs off (bad)

4) is bad because why in the hell would she market herself to you as a sexual being then follow that up with "wait a few months". To me "wait a few months" is 100% bs, every single girl I've ever had an intimate relation with (from kissing to sex) has had a gut-level sexual attraction to me.

My closest example to your girl was a girl who I smoked with then took her to my dorm later that night. We hooked up but she didn't let me go below the belt saying "that's all for tonight". The difference between my girl and yours is that mine was clearly sexually attracted to me and just didn't want to go at it that fast (due to inexperience.) I noted that "that's all for tonight" clearly meant that she saw herself having sex with me in the future, but on the first day was just too quick for her. We had sex on our third encounter (I thought it would take 4-5 just based on her inexperience and based on how well I knew her i.e. she really wasn't promiscuous/slutty etc.)

So yeah dude, I feel you, it's awesome to have a girl make the first move on you and it really feels good to have that happen. But this girl just has mad red flags going up and I feel certain that you are not going to get what you want. Don't let yourself get the short end of the stick, don't let her use promises of sex to get commitment from you.

MTLSNowman · 2013-07-14T12:26:09+00:00

A lot of replies here are concentrating on what you did wrong. That's fine you need to understand what happened and sometimes the beta inside of us needs to be put down with a sledge hammer more often then not because it strangles the alpha side.

Let me help you with what you should do next and I'm almost surprised no one has mentioned it if you still want a decent chance with this girl and I'm still a novice: Spin Plates . In front of her. Easier said then done I know but it will get into her head and force her to reevaluate where now it seems like you're firmly set in the patch of beta orbiter.

If you do follow the advice. If she wants you she should throw out some signals and compete. If not then you know that she has you pegged in the friend zone and you aren't getting out of it in the foreseable future. Either way you win 'cause you will move onto something else or you'll pull her.

Edit for using improper tags to bold things.

Redpill_Junkie · 2013-07-14T08:30:40+00:00

Just roll the dice. If she's okay with it great if not then she can fuck off till she is okay with it. Don't waste time with her without escalating because if you end up not getting anything out of it then that was time that could have been spent with other girls, your classwork and hobbies or gym etc.

2013-07-14T12:24:09+00:00

This girl is a bad girl. Pump and dump.

2013-07-14T12:46:29+00:00

"No, I don't go to guys houses like that, I'm a good girl."

"Oh, well that's too bad, I'm going to my house and it's going to be a lot of fun; you don't want to miss it."

Ditch this girl for now, you've been blown out and she knows it. Take a shot with some other girls and come back to this girl after a while and reframe the situation.

Drvibe · 2013-07-14T12:56:29+00:00

Do you want for her to give you companionship for however long that class lasts for and possible lovey doveyness after a few months AND pay for her meals and anything else you guys do during your time frame together ? No? Cool so tell her to suck your dick and you want to fuck or its not going to workout, she might LEAVE but who gives a FUCK

AlwaysLateToThreads · 2013-07-14T13:17:07+00:00

Unless she's a virgin (which she's not) then she lied. It was just a shit test to see how you'd respond.

GaiusScaevolus · 2013-07-14T15:44:09+00:00

Let me help with this one OP;

"Are you only interested in me for sex OP?"

"Well no... I also hear you can cook too" *Sly grin.

In all fairness, this is one of the tougher shit tests to overcome in the moment. You need great fundamentals to deflect this.

Zer0nation · 2013-07-14T16:52:56+00:00

Alright, still slightly plugged in question.

Whether I'm on a date, or with female friends, I always pay because it's just what I do. If it's a date, I usually get head after, if it's just friends, obviously not, although I probably wouldn't be with the friends if I didn't want more from them.

So, clearly, I need to cut out the paying for friends shit? It's not like I feel like I'm being used, I just like paying period. But obviously it's not going to work on "just friends"?

MrThisBody · 2013-07-14T17:04:12+00:00

Dude: The next time she sits next to you in class, wait till her ass touches the seat, then get up and move at least two desks away. As you're moving, say, "You're blocking my view" in an exasperated way and point to a girl a few points hotter or uglier than her.

Step Two: Swoop the girl you pointed to and leave the room without engaging the "good girl" at all.

Note: You don't have to pick up the girl you pointed to--although, bonus points if you do--you just have to tease and joke around with her to make the "good girl" jealous.

P.S. If the "good girl" physically stops you and harasses you about it, look her dead in the eyes and say, "Sorry. I only deal with girls in handcuffs." Then walk the fuck away.

Phyrd · 2013-07-14T17:51:28+00:00

This is troll right?

redpillarofdoom · 2013-07-14T20:24:55+00:00

She puts out for "gangsters" but you are nice to her, so she now wants to be a "good girl" with you.

Next time she's horny, she'll call up a gangster to fuck her good and hard, then she'll want you to take her out and pay for dinner.

LOL

musicvita25 · 2013-07-14T21:01:19+00:00

I think Lunch or Dinner was the biggest shit test. It all went wrong from there.

cipahs · 2013-07-14T22:08:23+00:00

How about this, "I'm a good girl," "hahaha sure," "haha I'd like to see that," "oh yeah and I'm a bastion of virgin purity."

Hormander · 2013-07-14T22:17:54+00:00

this is a girl with a tramp stamp and has 2 other tatoos of 2 different guys' names, who just a few minutes ago was talking about how she likes being tied up and handcuffed.

That's one heck of a hamster we have here.

PerniciousOne · 2013-07-14T23:07:09+00:00

She is trying to force you into a blue-pill relationship where you will be financing all her meals and entertainment, and afterwards she will meet up with one of those thugs who use her just for sex.

She is trying to entice you with her being "adventurous", but playing the "good girl" meme, so she can extract the maximum amount of resources out of you before her booty thug decides he does not want her going out with anyone else.

The relationship is already on the wrong foot, she has complete control over it, and any possible outcome. Because you have acted chivalrously you are now screwed and shoved into the "relationship" ladder which means no sex until she feels "ready".

Welcome to the blue-pill world.

Find some other girl in class, and bang the crap out of her, that may jolt you into a sexual category but you are her target for financing her lifestyle.

thewrightstuff88 · 2013-07-15T03:05:54+00:00

was it a "date" or just a lunch? because you picked up the tab and put yourself in this situation. if anything, ignore the chick, or actively pursue another girl, and be more aggressive. initiate, conversate, and don't fail the shit tests

ManicMuffin · 2013-07-15T07:27:24+00:00

Just go and Bang another girl

AlwaysLateToThreads · 2013-07-14T10:11:27+00:00

I tried to read your post, but all I saw was beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta what should I do now guys?

Postflop · 2013-07-15T17:31:51+00:00

Girl's gonna give you an STD.

2013-07-14T15:19:02+00:00

rofl this is so blue pill I cant even go on

ihavespellingproblem · 2013-07-14T08:59:48+00:00

This sounds like fun! I wish I was in your place right now!

favours_of_the_moon · 2013-07-14T08:55:31+00:00

You put yourself in this situation.

If you bide your time, she could just ditch you, and btw, if/when she does, she's gonna tell you it's YOUR fault.

WELL I WAS JUST GONNA GIVE YOU EVERYTHING, BUT THEN YOU DID THAAAAAT!

You trust this girl? Are you committed to her? Maybe you could see other girls right now, while you're waiting.

She's basically throwing it in your face about how she gets freaky for all these OTHER guys. Fuck her best friend.

Teknodruid · 2013-07-14T08:27:21+00:00

Play the game. Don't let her walk all over you but bide your time until you can tap it - then decide if it's worth a second helping or just a 'hit & run'

Title	"Good girl" shit test on first date
Author	laalpill
Upvotes	3
Comments	64
Date	July 14, 2013 8:20 AM UTC (13 years ago)
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