Got my first rejection today.

cEddowes · 2016-08-03T18:48:32+00:00

As a rule, I don't fuck with waitresses or cashiers or women in a service role. I've had limited success with bartenders but those are outlier events.

They are a great avenue to exercise your conversational skills and practice game, but taking the leap and "asking a girl out" in the service industry is really an unfair fight. They're working, they get hit on all the time, and if they were inclined to accept your advances it may reflect badly upon them in the quasi professional environment they are in. If you have an in with them, such as a mutual acquaintance or long term rapport, your chances are infinitely better.

Judging a woman's behavior in a service setting is difficult as it revolves purely around them receiving money. It's why places like hooters work so well. They'll be flirty, touchy and put an arm around you because they make more money if you think they like you.

This will sound bad, but use cashiers and the like as training dummies. Work on your wit, banter, and boost your confidence. Don't treat them like shit, treat them like a girl you'd want to take home, but don't pull that trigger. It's way better to walk away with a confidence boost than a blind rejection just because of the setting you met in.

AnAmericanComposer · 2016-08-03T20:42:24+00:00

Good job man.

Discard all comments here analyzing what you said or she answered. Focus on getting that approach anxiety out of the way as you did.

In Bang, Roosh has some pretty good tips on getting that stage sorted.. in case you need more.

Recon_by_Fire · 2016-08-03T20:07:46+00:00

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solar_stryker · 2016-08-03T20:20:49+00:00

This is awesome man. Kudos to you and passing that first step.

Now the boyfriend?? Some girls spew that out of nervousness! Like many said, could be a shit test or not, but you also made yourself available to her. Once you ask them out, they'll think about it every time you see them. If you run into her however, I'd act like she didn't faze you. Ask her some normal shit that you would ask any of your friends. Look into her eyes. Be assertive. Be fun. Let her regret what she denied. Who knows she might just drop the hint she's free for the weekend. Feel it out. After a couple of 'run ins' ask her out again. If her answer doesn't change, then she's not worth your time :)

AnAmericanComposer · 2016-08-03T22:30:06+00:00

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putin_vor · 2016-08-03T22:39:39+00:00

Smart? She's a cashier. With the 8 looks she would be flying up the corporate ladder if she bothered to study something useful.

ScarletNumbers · 2016-08-03T18:46:05+00:00

Good for you, nothing ventured, nothing gained.

How old are the 2 of you?

graffix13 · 2016-08-03T18:48:21+00:00

It's a rush. I have AA too but I'm getting over it. And...it sounds strange saying it, but rejection breeds confidence too (not as much as success, of course).

CashFrags · 2016-08-03T19:11:47+00:00

Great job mate, it is indeed ridiculously nerve wracking to approach at the start, and that butterfly-roller-coaster feeling never really goes away it just turns into something you enjoy like a joggers high.

pingpongsam · 2016-08-03T18:56:30+00:00

A couple observations:

That she calmly and coolly used the boyfriend line is indicative of the fact that she is used to getting propositioned (which should be duh for an 8). The takeaway here is that you aren't really putting her in an uncomfortable position because she's been here thousands of times. I believe a lot of approach anxiety is centered around the notion that we are creating an uncomfortable situation. this clearly isn't true. Even if it were, it's not really about us.

Secondly, the boyfriend line is a shit test even when it is true (and it's almost always true for an 8). It's fine to fail this test but it's more fun to pass it; for the both of you. Lots of good answers to this one that will only generate more charm and wit on your behalf. The fact is an 8 has tons of options and hypergamy suggests that she will explore for upgrades. Our strategy is to present as the upgrade.

PantsonFire1234 · 2016-08-03T21:08:23+00:00

I don't get the fear guys have of rejection. I'm not bragging when I state that I let go of that fear when I was about sixteen. You plate spinning guys should be more afraid when the girl actually starts to like you.

Co-dependents and serial monogamists might not understand this and dub me insane. But it's a valid fear, being commitment-phobic. For me it's difficult to calm down when girls start to stalk me. Eyeing me in that creepy way, like their imagining our honeymoon already. Horrible thoughts.

But for the approach anxious it's a liberating thought. Why fear the one outcome where you lose absolutely nothing? When a girl falls deeply in love with you, you always lose. Your plate either breaks or becomes your girlfriend. At that point the commitment means a loss of your time. There's nothing great about that. Maybe if your the romantic type it's worth the sacrifice.

What I'm trying to say is comforting, don't worry if you get turned down. You got away scott free, worry when you gotta deal with a lovesick girl. Rejection only affects the insecure ones. Good progress man, it will work itself out.

Title	Got my first rejection today.
Author	AnAmericanComposer
Upvotes	29
Comments	48
Date	August 3, 2016 6:34 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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