How to not be a beta-orbiter

BlackJ1 · 2017-01-31T06:03:38+00:00

Whoa slow down fam, you don't seem to quite understand yet.

Nothing good will ever come.....from having female "friends." Hanging around girls makes you look like a loser to everyone around you. And your "friends" are actively working to sabotage your self-improvement efforts.

That depends on the kind of female "friends" you have. If you have the right ones you can benefit greatly from them Refer to: http://archive.is/xyDZu

Female "friends" aren't inherently wrong or parasitic, it's just most guys don't think about whether or not they "benefit" from the friendship which honestly is the only thing that matters.

I have a female "friend" who I get free rides and shit from as long as I pretend like I care about her. Looks this female "friend" benefits me.

foot_odor · 2017-01-31T13:33:23+00:00

If you have any female "friends" now, ghost them. Stop responding to their texts, block their phone numbers, delete them on social media, and refuse to acknowledge them. You might consider telling them "go fuck yourself" while you're at it.

There really is an increasing proportion of autistic/antisocial content in this subreddit.

zigg-_-zagg · 2017-01-31T11:59:38+00:00

32 years old here. Banging two plates & not interested in any relationship . I have female friends which I have & choose not to bang. Reasons why I keep them around:

Driving my car when I go out drinking.
Get to to eat some nice homemade food.
Getting free shit\concert tickets.
Access to clubs where couples or mixed groups are allowed.
Introductions to other social circles.

All this did not come easy though. As my SMV is higher then theirs I get treated really well. I know this as I used to be fat as fuck & was never treated nice by any girl. I don't do any favors for them & in case if we do go out I pay my own bill. The only currency I pay out is time spent with them. As long as I enjoy what I am doing I don't give a fuck. It all boils down to who will be the bitch -> you or the female friend.

To new TRP's or folks who still swallowing the pill: Stop giving females validation & being their emotional tampons . If they boring you : Fucking say them . If you dont feel like hanging around : Fucking say them. Never stop self improvement. You come first

mcr00sterdota · 2017-01-31T09:04:22+00:00

How to not be an orbiter: If she friend zones you just ghost her and move on.

beachweak · 2017-01-31T09:02:28+00:00

you say that yet I've had females friends who have been nice to me, done stuff for me, given me free shit, etc. I've done fuck all for them so really I'd say it's case-by-case. but I would absolutely advice against trying to form any meaningful friendship with a woman, bad idea for obvious reasons.

DoubleT06 · 2017-01-31T07:53:21+00:00

Great post.

I dropped the few female friends I had over a year ago and never looked back.

I would add that another problem with having female friends is habits. If you have a lot of female friends you will likely fall into friend-zone quicker with new women.

Repetition is the mother of all skills. Treat ALL women the same way. Treat the hot ones the same way you do the ugly ones. And never accept any friendship terms.

newName543456 · 2017-01-31T20:48:08+00:00

How to not be an orbiter? Easy. I got it down even in BP days.

Simply always make physical advances on girls you fancy. You either get laid or shot down, but never stay in the orbit.

But:

If you have any female "friends" now, ghost them.

What for? What if I don't actually want to sleep with them?

You might consider telling them "go fuck yourself" while you're at it.

Okay. That was autistic.

redpillbanana · 2017-01-31T11:18:28+00:00

Easiest way to avoid being a beta orbiter is to enter relationships that are mutually beneficial. With most women this means that you're benefiting by fucking her and she's benefiting by getting fucked by you...but sex is not the only benefit.

For example, I know one woman who will bring groceries over and cook a nice meal for us in my kitchen. Then she gives me a head massage that feels so good that I usually end up falling asleep. When I wake up, I kiss her then pull her shirt and bra off and suck her nice tits. She never lets me take her pants off but she can come over anytime she wants.

BullshittingNonsense · 2017-01-31T07:44:00+00:00

Honestly sometimes it's kinda fun playing that subtle flirtation with the ones who have boyfriends. It's like yeah I don't give a fuck you got a boyfriend, I'm gonna be subtly sexual to you.

lqtys · 2017-01-31T16:21:55+00:00

How not to be a beta-orbiter: be autist.

Barvazon · 2017-01-31T08:57:33+00:00

You sound so butt-hurt.

Should we open a sub for anger phase?

king_of_red_alphas · 2017-01-31T09:41:08+00:00

Odd since I've had various hot female friends who were just party buddies but that I eventually fucked when the timing was right.

88Will88 · 2017-01-31T12:04:29+00:00

I fully realise that there are plenty of 'tards in here who need loads of instruction but this post is gilding the lily. Seriously, the rule is simple, fuck me, or fuck off. Anyone who is here who needs to read a long assed post about orbiting needs to grow a pair and read the sidebar. If we need to get into minutiae like this then we are fucking doomed. Anyone who got anything out of this beta shitpost needs to man the fuck up. I fuck hot bitches constantly yet I am not scared of female friends. Maybe they wingwoman for me, maybe she has cool friends, maybe she is rich, maybe I like her but do not want to fuck her. Grow up kids, women can be friends but if you want to fuck her and she does not want to fuck you then MOVE ON. It is not rocket science

heartbroken_nerd · 2017-01-31T13:15:42+00:00

Two words:

Social circle.

Your female friends might not fuck you but their friends can and will if they think you're cool.

iamneptuno · 2017-01-31T15:10:22+00:00

I've got a female friend. I can help her with her laptop while she's making sandwiches and cofee. We have different tastes in literature, and it's always real fun to argue. She gave me some good fitness advice. I battle test my stupid jokes on her.

Shit, son, I swear I almost regret that I will have to "ghost" her because of your angsty post.

Mr-Ed209 · 2017-01-31T23:40:16+00:00

I think the 'friend zone' is often a misunderstood concept and one that to the guy on the receiving end often feels like very harsh and unfair treatment from the girl who's decided to - let's just be friends. Many sources try and excuse it as a polite knock back that girls say to guys they are simply not interested in. I think theres more to it than that. Guys don't go around falling for every pretty girl they meet - we would be useless if we did. Instead theres usually a large degree of hope on the guys part that his encounter with said girl will develop into something more meaningful.

It's harsh because in 99% of cases the guy was lead on... Extremely lead on. He followed the BP narrative of being a nice guy and seeing where it goes, waiting for the 'right' time to make a move. Often going on dates with the girl (who will later deny that they were 'dates' when she inevitably fucks someone else before he makes a move).

At the end of it, both guy and girl know what was going on. Younger girls often cling to the excuse - 'but we were just good friends!! Why are you so upset! do you not value our friendship, you're an asshole!!". And older gals often tell it like it is, 'yeah... sorry, but you didn't make a move, deal with it'.

Then you can deal with it like TRP advocates and realise that if a girl is interested she's going to let you 'escalate' pretty early on from meeting her. In which case it's in everyones best interest to make a move early. If she's interested it's go time. If not you can cut your losses and realise no amount of dating and nice behaviour will change her feelings.

Jaghiro · 2017-01-31T14:17:34+00:00

If you have any female "friends" now, ghost them. Stop responding to their texts, block their phone numbers, delete them on social media, and refuse to acknowledge them. You might consider telling them "go fuck yourself" while you're at it.

You should change that at least to "If you have any female "friends" you want to fuck now".

I once had a Tinder match with one girl, I met her after some texts but when I met her, I just wasnt into her and she neither into me, but we are able to talk as "friends" and the friendship got better than with most of my guy friends. She doesn't throw the usual women shit at me and is beware of several RP Theories.

deforms · 2017-02-01T05:09:33+00:00

I don't mind being friend with a girl if we have similar interests and I don't want to fuck her.

pangeleikoBG · 2017-02-01T12:31:02+00:00

OP having FEMALE orbiters with a decent SMV helps a lot with pre- selection in my opinion. But you can't string them along for as long as beta chumps get stringed along, because if they have a high enough SMV they are gonna have options and not wait for you forever. Going out with them from time to time to social events and having them serve as your wingmen or get you free stuff seems positive. But you need to be high SMV for this to work. Don't cut all female ties. Cut female ties only with low SMV females and even then you might get something out of them because they are going to be trying harder than the other girls to get your attention. That perky 6-7/10HB that broke up with her BF may choose you as her "I am trying to get over him..." guy. Is it dangerous? Definitely. Will you get your dick wet? Probably. I know guys that have female "harems" of orbiters and they seems quite fond of having them. If you can bear the drama and the stupidity some times it can work for you.

Poonslayer42069 · 2017-01-31T14:58:57+00:00

I don't really think dropping all your female friends is wise/will get you anywhere. I will admit there are some females out there you shouldn't be friends with. Reading this post I immediately thought of my ex girlfriend. She actually got me unplugged. She dumped me for no reason and beta me held onto her for dear life. She led me on for a month or two before I snapped out of it. I remember one night being so pissed I just did pushups for a straight hour. I still talk to her and her friends occasionally as we all work at the same place during the summer (I'm a senior in high school) and I would like to keep things cordial as long as I have to be around her, but if it weren't for my extenuating circumstances I would drop them in a heartbeat.

But there are also a few female friends who I take value in their friendship. They don't lead me on (or maybe they're trying but I just don't notice it), and I'm not interested in them sexually anyway. I think this "If I don't get anything out of the relationship there's no point in the relationship" idea is a little misguided. I get enjoyment out of their friendship. And if that's not enough for you think about this. A girl I was talking to went fucking nuts when I hung out with two female friends of mine and put it on my story. In other words, female friends creates abundance. Without actual females you cannot create actual proof of abundance.

tldr; don't drop all female friends, they create actual proof of abundance

musclesnowlaser · 2017-01-31T17:14:08+00:00

If there your age and your attracted to them but don't put your dick in them spending any effort is stepping on your own nuts. I have lady who is 65 that is one my best friend's she is invaluable too me, she sees through women's shit easy !

roadrash8 · 2017-01-31T23:22:17+00:00

I have tons of female friends.. I may not be red pill but many of them have set me up and hooked me up with their friends. Even girls I hang around are hot and social proof has gotten me laid and long term relationships with girls.

I get along with girls even if its blue bill, I don't buy them shit but I have a chick whos a close friend who I'm not interested in but shes good looking and wants 3 somes all the time etc.

Ive had times where I got caught in the parasite friendship but learning that. Often times snap chat and other social media things show your with certain chicks and ur SMV goes up even more, especially if you have the reputation of a player. Even if the girls aren't banging you, if they say 'hes a player' your in.

Dont take things so black and white all the time.

Title	How to not be a beta-orbiter
Author	greenskinneet
Upvotes	30
Comments	34
Date	January 31, 2017 5:52 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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