Huge question. How can I stop feeling bad for AMOGing other men? Sometimes it's necessary and most of the time, I want that benefit it provides. So how can I stop feeling like a monster? Because I remember when I used to get AMOGed. It sucked.

fragglemook · 2013-08-01T10:12:05+00:00

One time I pulled this girl and went back to her place. She was with a male friend of hers. He was an orbiter. She had seemingly friendzoned him long ago but he still thought he was in with a chance.

I was literally in bed with this girl, making out with her, sharing a joint while he was on the end of the bed talking to us. I was totally conscious of this and found it incredibly funny. The girl wouldn't directly tell him to piss off, so I enjoyed making everything uncomfortable for all. I was replying to him as if we were having a conversation about the weather at the same time as I was tonguing her neck.

In the end I gently kicked him off the bed and motioned for him to get out and go home. Then I railed her good and hard for a few hours.

Some guys cannot decipher social cues. Sometimes they need a nudge.

GayLubeOil · 2013-08-01T09:20:21+00:00

If this situation ever arises look the other man in they eye and wisper "I know that we want the same thing." Then reach into his pocket and give him an inner thigh massage. If he reacts negatively he is a homophobe.

whiskey_bearfist · 2013-08-01T14:58:36+00:00

it seems like you don't want to have to compete. if you are fine with those guys stepping on you and taking what you want because you dont want to hurt their feelings... well thats very considerate of you, but think about who you are being nice to; the guys who are trying to fuck you over, take the girl home and fuck her, and then look down at you because they won

just resolve yourself that you have to look out for yourself first, because no one else will. if a friend is trying to game a girl you've clearly targeted prior, it is his own fault if his feelings get hurt. you don't try to pet a hungry dog while its eating.

you may need to communicate better with your buddies about what being a wingman means. if they can't help but try to cockblock you, out of jealousy, ignorance, shitty mood, or whatever else, then you just go out alone.

chances are, if you feel guilty after an interaction, then you probably handled it ungracefully. kicking a puppy doesn't feel good, so learn to handle the situation in a way that is congruent with your personality and morals. direct conflict is a weird feeling for someone who hasn't participated in that kind of behavior much during their life. but if you can keep your cool, its basically a strategic mating dance. they might win, but don't let them have a freebie. and DON'T appear desperate by AMOGing without good social calibration. that is awful and whiny.

RedSeddit · 2013-08-01T10:38:04+00:00

You shouldn't feel bad it is all in the game. That guy is not entitled to that girls time or pussy. You both spit your game and you won out. Plain and simple. The other dude takes it as experience. I have been on both ends and while it sucks losing out i won in the end because i can deal with it much easier now and win out.

HumanSockPuppet · 2013-08-01T15:09:27+00:00

In reality, every single conversation that people have is a display of dominance, and every single debate, disagreement, or argument represents shifts in the power dynamic between the individuals involved.

Imagine yourself in a group of friends. You're together at someone's house, and suddenly someone says aloud to the group, "I'm hungry."

Just by itself, that person is saying "I'm hungry, but I'm not expressing a preference. Either I want someone else to take responsibility for guiding the group to a place to eat, or I don't want to deal with the responsibility of making sure that the restaurant which gets selected suits everyone's preferences. Someone else please take control." This is the position of someone with low power or status.

No imagine that same person said this: "I'm hungry. Let's go to the steak house down the street. Steak house? Everyone good with steak? Awesome, let's go."

Notice the difference. Now the person is expressing hunger, their personal preference, AND taking responsibility for everyone's need. This is the position of someone with high status, power, and respect. Does this person feel bad for taking control? No. They're looking out for everyone in their group WHILE displaying their dominance.

There are other examples I can make, but I'm actually hungry myself right now, so I'll edit this later once I've had breakfast and driven the 6 hours from Yosemite back home.

In the meantime, think about the ways in which you make little displays of dominance among your friends, and ask yourself why you don't feel bad when you do THAT. Then extrapolate to displays of dominance with other people.

favours_of_the_moon · 2013-08-01T08:55:03+00:00

Can you give examples of particular situations?

Maybe you're being a douchebag or something.

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