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"I have honestly turned guys down before because they were TOO nice and accommodating to me." RedPill truths everywhere in r/askmen.

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February 16, 2015
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Title "I have honestly turned guys down before because they were TOO nice and accommodating to me." RedPill truths everywhere in r/askmen.
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Upvotes 16
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Date February 16, 2015 6:10 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2w3jzo/i_have_honestly_turned_guys_down_before_because/
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[–]Endorsed Contributorseattleron5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

And my personal preference, I also like men who will tell me what to do a little bit. Who will step up and say some harsh things without being too afraid of hurting my feelings. Some things need to be said, and some times I just need to be told when we are having sex whether I feel like it or not.

If only more guys understood this. Sometimes chicks WANT to be told to fuck off, shut up, sit down, no you wont, time for you to go, GTFO, maybe next time, no we're not, etc.

Why? Because it shows you're a man and that is attractive to a woman, it's the same reason a woman being sweet and thoughtful is attractive to you.

This shit is not that hard to understand.

[–]Smacktardius2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

But in the meantime, you need to decide whether she's gonna pull the abuse card when you do those things.

Kinda hard to win, don't ya think?

[–]Endorsed Contributorseattleron1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Abuse by basically telling her no? If she pulls that card, better off that she leaves anyway.

[–]disposable_pants0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not that women want to be told "no", because no one likes to be told "no" -- women want someone who isn't a pushover. The ideal is that she knows you're operating on your terms and she won't be able to shake you from those terms without good reason (e.g. whining about nothing won't send you cowering). If establishing this sort of frame requires you to say "fuck off" or "shut up" in anything but a playful manner -- any manner that could remotely be construed as abusive -- your form is just clumsy.

[–]skoobled1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But the societal programming runs deep

[–]darkstout3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Women categorize men into either lovers or providers. Practically every romantic film has two men, each playing this trope.

Alpha Fux/Beta Bux. It's always been this way.

Remember that "Beta Bucks" is more than about money. He is a safe emotional provider. His emotional commitment is his currency. And he usually gives it too freely, like a slut spreading her legs for low status men. How can a woman respect such a man?

[–]disposable_pants0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How can a woman respect such a man?

I think it's more simple than respect -- it's supply and demand. Women want both BB (common) and AF (rare). If all you bring to the table is emotional commitment you're easily replaceable because she can get that anywhere; alpha characteristics are few and far between so you're less replaceable.

I wouldn't look at it as a matter of respect -- that makes the whole situation more emotionally charged than it needs to be. Women (like everyone) are always looking to do better, and it's easier to do better than BB because emotional commitment is available everywhere.

[–]screamingATtrees5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Woman have "preferences"

Men have "fetishes"

[–]DevilBoyZero1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I can't have meaningless sex with him. He's not the hookup kind of guy. He is boyfriend or husband material...

That bit me. Makes me wonder if the reason girls don't want to fuck me is because they see me as "boyfriend material", and it turns out that they're just a bunch of dumb sluts who are looking to fuck a bunch of guys until they hit the wall and decide it's time to commit.

Fuck that. I don't want to be a fuckboy, nor do I want to to be the boyfriend of some girl who's already been slammed by slews of other men. Neither of those would be fulfilling. For that reason, I go my own way.

[–]tombreck2 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Comments from women on reddit should be taken with a grain of salt.

Google images of "reddit meetup" and you'll see what I mean

[–]Transmigratory0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If we at RedPill were to say "You need to tell your girlfriend she is having sex whether she feels like it or not", we would be branded as rapist misogynists and the quote would be all over the internet for months. But when a woman says it, that just makes her a strong independent female who knows what she wants.

Hence why when we use RP or RP material in life, we should seriously STFU about it. Use it silently; don't be vocal about it.

[–]Transmigratory0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He is boyfriend or husband material, and I don't want to be the woman who fucks him over for the rest of his life.

Why do most people forget being boyfriend/husband material? A lot of women think like this... an overwhelming majority, in fact.

[–]killcat-3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"This is fucking rich. He's husband or boyfriend material... and therefore I shouldn't have sex with him! Because you know, having sex with your husband and boyfriend is such an unheard of, and scandalous, thing to do! Perfectly illustrates alpha bux, beta bux right here."

I disagree slightly its entirely possible she means "I don't want to hook him if I have to dump him later because I move" although that's probably for her benefit rather than his.

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