I keep on seeing threads to not get married – so does this practically mean you'll most likely never have kids? Also, what if you come from a trad. culture (India, China, etc)/arranged marriage, and you want to find a girl that makes the same or higher than you? Then what's the loss?

suloco · 2015-03-17T16:03:10+00:00

I won't speak for our brothers as some of us presume. To but to me it's not about NEVER getting married. In Central/Eastern Europe (Prague) where I am from there is still a bit of the old world values preserved, even though it is disappearing quite quickly.

When you have kids, you have enormous responsibility to shape them into decent human beings. That should be your goal no. 1, 2 and 3. In order do that, you need to set a good example of man/woman relationship for them to observe and internalize. In order to do THAT, you need one hell of 50's ideal of a marriage.

Conclusion I made outta this for myself? Do not get married and have kids unless you know for dead certain:

1) You reached a peak of your potential and your next goal is literally to have kids (not letting the woman to manipulate you into it, needs to be YOUR decision) 2) You managed to find a unicorn (some believe they still exist) 3) You are absolutely beyond a shadow of a doubt familiar what marriage actually is (RP on HARD FUCKING MODE) and you are absolutely sure you can pull it off.

Still: Don't get married. Ever.

Hope this helps..

FortunateBum · 2015-03-17T20:41:12+00:00

Ronaldo way is best way. Pay a woman to give you a kid. Never have contact with her again.

mrp3anut · 2015-03-17T23:03:18+00:00

This idea is a hot topic here recently. Mist of what you hear is either anti marriage dogma that really isn't in touch with reality or it is pro-marriage grandstanding about how its "TRP on hard mode".

The reality is that the marriage 1.0 framework is the ideal environment for children. You can try to build this type of relationship in today's world but the odds are stacked against you. It will be hard, financially and emotionally risky, and there is no guarantee the kids will turn out well even if you succeed at the relationship.

The choice is yours whether you think the possible gains are worth the risks given your skills, outlook, and environment. The rest is just people bullshitting on the internet.

PraiseB2SlutFucking · 2015-03-17T15:50:40+00:00

Cypher: I know what you're thinking, 'cause right now I'm thinking the same thing. Actually, I've been thinking it ever since I got here: Why oh why didn't I take the BLUE pill?

Cypher: You know, I know this steak doesn't exist. I know that when I put it in my mouth, the Matrix is telling my brain that it is juicy and delicious. After nine years, you know what I realize? Ignorance is bliss.

tombreck2 · 2015-03-17T14:13:58+00:00

TRP is based in Westernized nations where Marriage 2.0 exists (it's on the sidebar).

how do you have kids?

In westernized countries having kids has changed in the last few decades as well. Gone are traditions family values are in are YOLO values. I didn't have a cell phone until I was in college and I had to pay for it with my own money. Nowadays you have 6 year olds snapchatting each other. If you don't give your kid a cell phone then you're a bad parent and the kid will resent you.

On top of that, why would I want to pay $20k-$30k of my hard earned money for my kid to get a shit degree, move out, never visit and never appreciate my sacrifice?

the average marriage falls apart after say 10 – 15 years

What's the definition of "falls apart"?

No more sex? That usually happens after 1-2 years.

Stop loving each other? You're looking at 5-7 years.

you could find a girl that is a doctor/dentist

Hypergamy: "22% percent of male physicians and 44% of female physicians were married to other physicians".

Catch-22: If you are a successful doctor then females will want to marry you but if you're a successful doctor then you have no reason to get married.

What do prisoners and married men have in common? They both spend a lot of time thinking about how they got in this situation.

moonmania · 2015-03-17T14:08:44+00:00

It all comes down to demographics. Young men don't want to be married or have children. Maybe one's priorities shift as one gets older, maybe they don't. But you can see even "celebrated" "pick up artists" falling off the carousel after they run out of steam, so it's not like "game" makes them immune to the natural human tendency to pair-bond.

Plus, it's a whole lot easier to have a series of easy women than manage just one who knows just how to push your buttons and screw with your head. That's not a moral judgement, by the way, some guys just don't want to engage in a bit of psychological warfare.

Dasugo · 2015-03-17T18:33:18+00:00

Either way, he settles down with 1 woman.

mordanus · 2015-03-17T21:55:44+00:00

If you find a woman that makes the same or more money than you then what would she want with you? Women only marry up so if you aren't offering higher status with pay or position than you have to offer her something else so that she will look up to you. If you don't your sex life will be nonexistent and you will get no respect in your home.

If you aren't someone that a woman can look up to with admiration then you are no better than a pet to them. You can offer companionship but that's it. Expect no real love from them

bloodshot_eyes · 2015-03-18T02:17:16+00:00

The "Don't Get Married" message is big on here, yes. And rightly so. It's a proposition that will almost never benefit you.

And that's what TRP is all about, really. Remove the rose-coloured glasses. See the world for what it IS, and not what everyone wants you to see. Marriage used to be a fast-track to social respectability. It was something that would advance you, in business, life, society, and church. This social contract has been utterly shattered.

See the world for what it IS, and not what everyone wants you to see. Swallow The Red Pill, and act in your own best interests, and not how everyone else wants you to act. Shit, in a way what we're doing here is behaving the way women have behaved all along: Shamelessly selfishly. If the terrible costs of marriage are worthwhile to you, then that's something that you as a man can choose. But make sure that, after weighing the pros/cons, you do what's best for YOU, and not your family, or your friends, or your culture, or some vague bullshit about what you should be doing with your life.

So run the numbers. If perpetuating your genetic legacy is worth the hundreds of thousands of dollars that marriage/divorce/child support/alimony will cost you, then that's your decision to make as a MAN.

Dasugo · 2015-03-17T14:43:02+00:00

They will All get married or the legal equivalent.

Every redpill antimarriage zealot will get married or be in an LTR.

It is easy to talk online about not getting married but it happens to all of us men.

Sure, there will be some exceptions but for the most part, they will All marry.

gexxx007 · 2015-03-17T19:27:31+00:00

Don't get married. Don't have kids. Spend your leisure time with your hobbies and fucking the shit out of hot chicks.

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