I think you're doing alpha wrong

UrsusG · 2017-01-31T14:18:32+00:00

TL;DR: Trying to be alpha is inherently β

In other words:

'Just be yourself and pls don't make it harder for us women to discern the natural alpha from the beta guy acting alpha, lest we mistakenly invite inferior cock into our pearly gates'

NeoreactionSafe · 2017-01-31T14:23:25+00:00

Our first task is to Kill the Beta.

The idea that you come here as a young man in a Blue Pill mythology mindset and simply "add" the Alpha "feelz" to your vibe is incorrect.

Error

You have repeated the error we see with many Newbies here recently.

It's a common mistake.

Our primary task is destructive and our focus is on destroying the Blue Pill myths.

Alpha isn't anything the Newbies should be concerned with.

To truly be Alpha you need Power and Dark Triad like knowledge which is way too advanced for entry level betas.

Better to shoot for Chad Thundercock first... or even MGTOW.

max_peenor · 2017-01-31T14:29:00+00:00

pls don't hate me

No one hates you, toots. This is just more mainstream bullshit meant to keep the pill out of otherwise eager hands. We love women; we just understand what they are.

Anyway, you are about the only woman I have ever encountered that wrote like they were doing a mathematical proof. Can you shove your right hand down your pants and make sure there isn't a tree trunk dangling there?

I rarely if ever meet a male who makes me feel like a pathetic damsel in distress

Er... Captain Save-a-Ho is not Chad Thundercock. You are mixing the streams here. If someone makes you feel like that, it's because they want to save you. That is not an alpha trait. It's a provider trait.

Auvergnat · 2017-01-31T14:51:39+00:00

You're just trying to redefine concepts that already have widely accepted definitions in our circle.

alpha = the traits that men have that make women want to fuck them. See https://therationalmale.com/2011/10/20/alpha/

beta = the traits that men have that make women want to exploit them for their resources. See https://therationalmale.com/2011/09/02/beta-game/

You have close to zero knowledge of red pill philosophy and seek to redefine our terms? What if I were to go on the philosophy subreddit and, without reading Seneca, decide that I believe Stoicism should now mean "door handles" and everyone should probably stop thinking what they think Stoicism means and instead adopt my definition?

By your weird definition of alpha as "engineer that don't give shit about others", Tesla was alpha.

By ours, the fact that he died a virgin, he was beta as fuck. His OCD, lack of Frame, lack of social manners, all-around weirdness, putting women on a pedestal, all confirm this guy did not fit at all the standard red pill definition of alpha

abdada · 2017-01-31T14:04:10+00:00

I'll agree because I've been in these circles online since 1980 and the only guys who get it and win aren't concerned with anything but their charisma and confidence and leadership character.

The rest of the shit people want is lipstick on a pig since they have zero ability to cold approach a cute girl at Starbucks or CVS.

Money, clothing, height, style, etc is lipstick on a pig if you can't say hi to any woman you feel like saying hi to.

bestCallEver · 2017-01-31T14:17:15+00:00

Well those superficial wannabe alpha traits you think this sub is about are really just a small part of it. The underlying message to me has always been "make your life full and interesting as fuck, value yourself, and keep your body in shape"... Not everyone is meant to be "alpha", but that is how you maximize your potential.

papersheepdog · 2017-01-31T16:24:55+00:00

Great post. Alpha is beyond the ego. Many will try to emulate the behavior, but the personality is still wrapped up in the image of the self. They are truly scared of losing their status in the eyes of others and so become a slave to their own image and lash out when challenged. The ego is very fragile, and its very sad to see the facade crumble down so easily when control is lost. It is not a position of strength. This is why its important to unbind.

TheYoungOwl_ · 2017-01-31T14:16:59+00:00

I don't actively try to be alpha, I simply let myself be.

But I think it's important to introspect on whether your actions could be perceived as alpha or beta.

Edit: my childhood was also rough, so that may be why I'm always alert with other people

Ohboohoolittlegirl · 2017-01-31T14:25:23+00:00

In a few post later I tried to explain What an alpha was. It's not the money, the body or the status. It's the mindset. It's the way one behaves and expects others to comply..

AnjaJutta · 2017-01-31T14:32:49+00:00

I do beg your pardon but since when does this sub promote the idea that alpha means driving a car and wearing suits? I´ve been around for a while and I hardly ever saw threads discussing cars and suits.

Trying to pass yourself off as an alpha is one thing. Putting yourself on a life-long journey to be the best you can be and give value to everyone around you instead of spending your days playing videogames and masturbating has no shred of beta about it.

Do you think your dad was born with the ability to fix cars, or that Christofer Hitchens debated his views like a champion when he was 11? Everyone starts from somewhere, Demosthenes the ancient Greek orator (Δημοσθένης αφού σου αρέσει η ελληνική γραφή) put stones in his mouth to overcome a severe speech impediment he had and went to become one of the most famous and succesful orators in antiquity. He wasn´t born it, he became it.

MrBellsprout123 · 2017-01-31T16:26:59+00:00

The bottom line is you cannot understand. You are a woman, you do not have the ability to self reflect like men do.

Men are better than you. All men think they're better than you, and theirs no amount of feminist brainwashing will change that. Now, theirs two ways you can take that.

A stupid girl would say "no that's not true", let her arm pit hair grow, march around and cry and bitch like what we saw a week ago, get all upset, and decide to live in a fantasy world where men are women are equal. And try to be a man.

But a smart girl, which I assume you are, would ask herself "Men think they're better than me, now how can I use this to my advantage." (which may or may not be true, but for the most part is)

By being submissive and feminine, you are actually gaining power. Men will want to do things for you, be there for you, to date you. THIS is where a woman's power comes from.

If I wanted to, I could run up to you and kill you while you're walking down the street. Just think about that for a second. I'm 6'2" and a good athlete. And I could do it just because I felt like it, before anyone could find you or save you, I could do that, and there is absolutely nothing you could do about it, nothing.

Sure theirs lots of practical ways that this isn't true, but you catch my drift, if we both had pepper spray and got into a fight, I would win, but if you just had pepper spray i MIGHT lose.

The uncomfortable truth is this, men own you. The only reason women can vote is because men let you vote, the only reason you can own property is because men let you own property, the only reason you can speak is because men let you speak, the only reason you can breathe is because men let you breathe, the only reason they're alive is because men let you be alive. And the only way you can be stop me is by getting OTHER men to stop me. Like your father, or w/e men you can control.

Now fortunately for you, I don't want to do any of this, I want you to vote, I want you to own property, I want you to speak, I want you to be alive. But, I could, I could take away all of this if I wanted to, and don't forget it.

This is the goal of feminism, its to not get men to realize their power over women. Its goal is to keep the blind fold on men. To make sure men don't realize that they hold all the cards in their hands.

A woman's power does not come from herself like a mans, it comes from the men you can control. And the more feminine you are the more power you will have over men. Which in return, gives you power.

Pls don't report me for harassment and death threats :)

The_alpha_monk · 2017-01-31T15:08:23+00:00

So you are just talking about how thinking in regards to being beta is a polarity response and this makes your first response beta. This convinces your subconscious functioning to exude "I can be moved, I can be convinced, I really don't know myself." If we subtract the "love" conditioning you received in your informative years, (qualities you like,things you play over and over in your head to inspire feeling or "fake confirmation" , blah blah blah) then you are just saying you want someone whose first action is devoid of self questioning. (And will utterly crush your fake opposition and have you in bubble) but most importantly what you don't realize is that the subconscious is trying to streamline all practiced functions, so when what is practiced makes it into muscle memory then you have the vibe you are talking about. Action faster than conscious thought. Just gotta get your 10000 hours in. It's just a step process like any thing else.

DeeDeeDa · 2017-01-31T15:20:47+00:00

The fruit bowl thing is good. What else does he says that makes you feel like a damsel in distress?

I would like to recycle the lines.

bigcitytruth · 2017-01-31T16:25:20+00:00

This post is typical of women: complains about stuff, points out things that feel "yucky," can go on and on about it ... yet offers absolutely no solution to the things she complains about.

The only thing useful in your entire post was a quote uttered by a man - "You may as well be looking into a fruit bowl for all that it means to you."

That brilliant line sums it all up. And that line also explains why the sidebar material makes no sense to you. Leave the detailed mechanics to us men.

blackedoutfast · 2017-01-31T16:50:01+00:00

this is normal for a female. you want a natural alpha because what you really want is his genetic material. you want your sons to be alphas who can impregnate lots of women and thereby spread your contribution of genetic material far and wide.

you have a instinctive dislike for alpha mimickry because an man who had to learn to act like an alpha wasn't born that way. he doesn't have those alpha traits hard coded in his DNA. and if you get knocked up by this alpha mimic, your kids will end up with his lame beta genetic material. your kids will either be loser beta males who get cuckholded or they will have to learn how to fake being alpha to get laid.

jimmle · 2017-01-31T14:17:33+00:00

She says the same stuff i've been saying, she gets praise

I say it, i get lambasted

RP interpretations really fuck this philosophy up -_-

Shiva-Lingam · 2017-01-31T14:44:31+00:00

This isn't even really a question or a discussion it's just a statement of what I believe to be fact.

What's the point of stating your beliefs if you don't want a discussion? It's like you coming here saying "Santa Claus is real, end of story".

Drives x car wears x suit socialises in x place to be seen. Is that not a bit bait?

Nobody has ever said that. Alpha is what Alpha does, meaning an Alpha can do anything considered "beta" and still be Alpha.

Like for me an α male is probs an engineer / extremely practical / can do what I can't do. I often think of my father when he's fixing my car and I'm looking into the engine and asking Qs and he says 'you may as well be looking into a fruit bowl for all that it means to you'. I rarely if ever meet a male who makes me feel like a pathetic damsel in distress but I feel like that's what a man or an α is.

Summarised as "I need Alpha because I can't wipe my ***". Most men can do what you can't do: write a decent post, yet you don't fall head over heels for the people here who do so, why? Because it doesn't fit your narrative of damsel in distress that needs the knight in shining armour to save the day. An Alpha will protect you if he needs to, but first of all a true Alpha will empower the people around him. Your father at some point should have said "I'm going to teach you how you can fix the car yourself so you're going to be independent and not bother me with your crap"

A person who just commands respect and to whom even the most ardent feminists / snowflakes / betas wouldn't open their mouths because without having to say a word the α lets them know their place.

With this I agree.

Money is great and all insofar as it alleviates stress and of course for engineers can be a measure of the utility of an innovation.

First, nobody said money = Alpha. Second, money equals freedom and we can truly grow as people only when we are free of the constraints of biology (food and shelter), when we are free of worry and when we actually have time to dedicate to self actualisation (see Maslow's hierarchy of needs)

I always saw the αs as the Nikola Teslas or the Grigori Perelmans of the world.

Wow, I didn't know my Mensa card was the ticket to becoming the most sought after man in the universe. Oh wait a minute, it's not! People like Tesla might be geniuses, but they're still social outcast: case in point, he died a virgin.

Surely to be α requires being at the top of a pack and therefore not giving a flying fuck what the pack is doing / what the pack thinks. I just think there is nothing so attractive in a male as not giving a fuck, at least to me and my lone female friend.

It's such a basic concept in TRP that it even has its own acronym: IDGAF. Before writing something like this, read the sidebar.

TL;DR: Trying to be alpha is inherently β

What does that even mean? It's like saying "trying to be rich is inherently poor - just be rich". You can't magically switch from beta to Alpha, it's a process and most betas will be in situations where they won't be able to act Alpha but will try and fail. Should they just stop trying and accept that they are doomed to a life of misery?

TL;DR: Come back when you have some life experience.

jimmle · Tue Jan 31 15:46:58 2017 UTC

Oh god there are loads. When I begin a sentence with "I think..." he says "How many times do I have to tell you: don't think; you'll get into trouble."

fetchyminx · 2017-01-31T14:07:17+00:00

It's like you wrote down everything that goes inside my mind when I read this sub. 💁🏻

2Bait4Me · 2017-01-31T15:32:35+00:00

What is more telling is, on a near anonymous platform, you felt the need to include your gender.

This is like the MGTOW Fangirls, women will do anything for attention.

"Drives x car wears x suit socialises in x place to be seen"

Just like many new RP'ers you are misunderstanding. Cars and wealth are not an aim to help you pull, they are an aid to better your self, a goal for you to aim for, for you only.

Alpha is not about material items, it's a state of mind, a way of being.

Read the side bar.

Pro tip, If you are above a 6 , use Social medias \ dating websites & Apps, heck even visit your nearest bar and you will get all the low frequency energy validation "hits \ fix's" you need.

Alternatively you could look to why you feel the need for constant validation \ attention, and grow as a person.

Title	I think you're doing alpha wrong
Author	[deleted]
Upvotes	9
Comments	106
Date	January 31, 2017 2:01 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/5r8chd/i_think_youre_doing_alpha_wrong/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/TheRedPill/i-think-youre-doing-alpha-wrong.40533 https://theredarchive.com/post/40533

Comments