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Is there such a thing as TOO alpha?

Asshole_Notifier

April 28, 2015
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Title Is there such a thing as TOO alpha?
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Asshole_Notifier

Upvotes 0
Comments 14
Date April 28, 2015 2:48 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/345q5j/is_there_such_a_thing_as_too_alpha/
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I'm tired of us being the ones who have to always pass the shit tests. How can I make her jump through some hoops to prove herself to ME once in s while?

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April 17, 2015
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[–]TW_RPAwake4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If you havent read it, I recommend Rollo's book "The Rational Male" for this topic. You are right - in an LTR there must be moments of nurturing and communication. The type and ratios are important.

A hardship example - Her close friend / relative dies. She will naturally look to seek comfort from you.

A communication example - Let her "paint a picture" of how she thinks you think. Never fill in all of the details, but offer glimpses every now and again to keep her working on the puzzle. Oh, and one other thing - reward good behavior and punish bad. Some in TRP focus on the latter, but the former is equally important.

[–]Asshole_Notifier 1 points1 points1 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I totally get it. I'll definitely check that book out. It seems like the reward thing is what I'm not getting. I'm not sure how to be a person she actually cares about instead of just a robotic father-type figure. Rewarding seems like its not discussed a whole lot on the sub.

[–]OwlsExterminator1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Hey. Research comfort tests. Like when a girl gets squirrelly and asks, do you really love me? Hug and comfort her (don't answer directly) then and be nurturing at that moment. It's not a shit test and not beta. Just don't gush you're her bitch

[–]stolidfact5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

and not giving her any positive feedback about anything she does.

You are not rewarding and punishing her. Not giving her a range of emotional expression. When a woman says it's about you, what that means is that it's about her and her perception and experience. Focus on the truth of what she is saying. Give her a target for success and help her reach there, because seems like she wants to pleasure you. Being stoic does not mean always being a robot.

[–]wantonton 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is on point. When she says you're too walled off and unemotional what she's saying is she's not having a rich enough, deep enough, expansive enough emotional experience while with you, She wants to feel more emotions and she's expecting you to provide them.

Can an "alpha" play an acoustic guitar? Can he sit back and sing songs about the good life, love, margarita's? Of course he can. A pussy can as well. What's the difference? Attitude and mastery. A true master understand hows to pluck and strum the strings to make something beautiful. There's a reason it has often been analogized that a good lover is like a master musician. It is much the same concept. You know exactly what to do to get the result you want. If you can't play it, then you just need more practice.

[–]Asshole_Notifier 1 points1 points1 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Yeah I guess the "Reward" part is the part I'm struggling with knowing how to do.

[–]stolidfact3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago [recovered] (0 children) | Copy Link

What do you want from her? What do you love that she does, or a quality she possesses, or a skill that really works for why you picked her and not someone else? She is giving you a comfort test in a way. Wants to know when she is doing well and how to please you. So tell her, and give her feedback so she feels engaged and useful. Some part of her knows that she must perform, and you aren't giving her an opportunity to do that with feedback on the quality of performance.

[–]Philhelm3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Being too Alpha usually results in an early death, but only after the Alpha conquers half of Eurasia and secures a place in history.

[–]OwlsExterminator2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

There are shit tests and comfort tests. Don't "open up" and sound like a beta but don't fail the comfort tests either. Learn to recognize the comfort tests. Otherwise be oblivious about being "walled up", it's her problem, don't lose frame.

[–]ModMachiavellianRed[M] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You've worded this in a way that makes it seem like it's suitable to the main forum, but really you want relationship advice so this belongs in /r/asktrp. Repost it there.

[–]Redpillc0re-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Give her more drama. She wants more drama, she doesn't really want you to "open up" or "unwall yourself". Women love drama and need drama. She doesnt need your praise, despite what she says. She loves the thrill of trying to gain your praise. Remember, what women say and what they mean are 90% of the time different things.

[–]ModMachiavellianRed0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good post, don't know why you're being down voted.

[–]2IVIaskerade-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Alpha and beta are not binary states. They are on a sliding scale, with "dark triad psychopath" at one end and "absolute doormat" at the other.

You just need to adjust your position on the scale a little bit.

She obviously wants your relationship to work, because she came and talked with you before things got too far, so if you want to continue it, you're going to need to heed her advice.

As other commenters have already identified, "heeding her advice" doesn't mean listening to what she says. It means listening to what she means, and taking action on that.

[–]goremanbates -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Look at all the bitches who died over pussy. Defending a woman's "honor" and (deservedly) getting your life ended isn't worth it.

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